• Parler/mistake/Amazon dependent

    From Ogg@420:2/1 to Arelor on Friday, October 08, 2021 18:29:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Friday 08.10.21 - 05:15, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    [...] not know how to download an APK from third party
    sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android
    complain and throw scary messages which put regulars away.

    Parler comitted the mistake of making their application
    Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they
    had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

    Ah.. so the Playstore .APK version needs to be considerably
    different than the 3rd-party direct-download version? If so, I
    did not realize that. And.. the only thing that ties an app to
    Playstore is the fact that if it originates from there the
    updates would originate from there automatically?

    I installed the F-droid app on my BB10 (after the Playstore/
    Google combo started having fits), and for the most part it
    seems to cooperate. I can search and browse for apps, and it
    automatically indicates which ones are compatible for my
    device. But lately, the F-Droid app is having trouble updating
    itself; the installs are failing. :(



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  • From MRO@420:2/1 to Ogg on Saturday, October 09, 2021 03:55:28
    Re: Parler/mistake/Amazon dependent
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Oct 08 2021 06:29 pm

    Parler comitted the mistake of making their application
    Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they
    had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

    Ah.. so the Playstore .APK version needs to be considerably
    different than the 3rd-party direct-download version? If so, I
    did not realize that. And.. the only thing that ties an app to
    Playstore is the fact that if it originates from there the

    the parler apps i used werent on the amazon appstore. i got them from google play and later from their website.

    regarding your playstore app questions, the telegram google app and the telegram app on their website is different. there are censorship measures added in the google play store and maybe other shit.
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  • From Arelor@420:2/1 to Ogg on Saturday, October 09, 2021 04:48:21
    Re: Parler/mistake/Amazon dependent
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Oct 08 2021 06:29 pm

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Friday 08.10.21 - 05:15, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

    [...] not know how to download an APK from third party
    sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android
    complain and throw scary messages which put regulars away.

    Parler comitted the mistake of making their application
    Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they
    had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

    Ah.. so the Playstore .APK version needs to be considerably
    different than the 3rd-party direct-download version? If so, I
    did not realize that. And.. the only thing that ties an app to
    Playstore is the fact that if it originates from there the
    updates would originate from there automatically?

    I installed the F-droid app on my BB10 (after the Playstore/
    Google combo started having fits), and for the most part it
    seems to cooperate. I can search and browse for apps, and it
    automatically indicates which ones are compatible for my
    device. But lately, the F-Droid app is having trouble updating
    itself; the installs are failing. :(

    It is not that third party APKs need to be substantially different than the store ones as much as the fact the user has to deliberately enable third party install for Android. A lot of people shies away from doing that because Android throws a lot of scary warnings. "Installing third party programs may toast your phone and get you infected with malware and kill your cat" stuff. A whole lot of people gets scared by those things.

    Then yes, you lose automatic updates unless you us a third party repository that supports the APKG (such as F-Droid).

    F-Droid is a bit erratic but for the most part it works well. I think most of their issues are related to having network usage spikes and their servers not being able to cope with the load at times.

    The installation of the APKs itselves are done by Android and not F-Droid I think. F-Droid onl­y does the downloading and listing.


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