• Download failures

    From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 11:59:28 2026
    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini. It runs in command-line mode. When I try to download any further files (including
    a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...." errors.

    This happens with a wireless or an Ethernet connection and still occurs
    ater I have re-started the router. I am due to move to a new ISP in a
    couple of weeks, so do not want to start any correspondence with my
    current ISP.

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Liz Tuddenham on Mon Oct 19 14:37:56 2026

    Hello Liz!

    19 Oct 26 11:59, Liz Tuddenham wrote to all:

    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini. It runs
    in command-line mode. When I try to download any further files
    (including a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...."
    errors.

    This happens with a wireless or an Ethernet connection and still
    occurs ater I have re-started the router. I am due to move to a new
    ISP in a couple of weeks, so do not want to start any correspondence
    with my
    current ISP.

    Server versions have Minimalistic installs in that GUI and many
    applications such as office etc are not installed.

    To get around that you have to install the desktop version.
    This does install a GUI such as KDE or Gnome (usually selectable).

    The server build does not have any of this as it assumes user wishes to on
    have a server say for supporting files, printers, DBMS (such as Mysql, postgres), web services via apache for example.

    Needless to say all these services can also be on a desktop install.

    Installing extra services such as a GUI interface etc can cause problem depending on the Distro as some may well not really support it and more
    than likely not have been tested for such so it is best to install the
    correct one for you usage.

    I would suggest you try and install a desktop version over the top of the current install over writing the lot and see if that is better.

    Small point make very sure you are installing the correct version of Ubuntu
    for you hardware and processor, e.g., ARM or AMD, Intel etc.
    This, is the most important requirement !


    Vincent



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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 13:01:13 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini. It runs in command-line mode. When I try to download any further files (including
    a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...." errors.

    This happens with a wireless or an Ethernet connection and still occurs
    ater I have re-started the router. I am due to move to a new ISP in a
    couple of weeks, so do not want to start any correspondence with my
    current ISP.

    Is the ubunto install on DHCP, or manual IP configuration?

    if the former, it should get DNS setting from your router, if the latter
    have you configured DNS server IPs for it?

    if you haven't got a GUI installed, you'll probably need to edit /etc/resolv.conf
    by hand

    or possibly
    /etc/netplan/somethingorother.yaml






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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 13:34:12 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini. It runs in command-line mode. When I try to download any further files (including
    a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...." errors.

    This happens with a wireless or an Ethernet connection and still occurs ater I have re-started the router. I am due to move to a new ISP in a couple of weeks, so do not want to start any correspondence with my
    current ISP.

    Is the ubunto install on DHCP, or manual IP configuration?

    I don't know, how do I find out?


    if the former, it should get DNS setting from your router, if the latter
    have you configured DNS server IPs for it?

    Beyond my capabilities at the moment.


    if you haven't got a GUI installed, you'll probably need to edit /etc/resolv.conf
    by hand

    or possibly
    /etc/netplan/somethingorother.yaml

    I have no idea how to go about that at the moment. I am just coming to
    terms with the command line interface (the last time I used one it was
    on a Teletype).

    I tried downloading a GUI but there were lots of missing components and,
    even it it might work, I don't know how to switch it on.


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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 13:42:42 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    I am just coming to> terms with the command line interface (the last
    time I used one it was
    on a Teletype).
    OK, welcome to a vertical learning curve.

    Are you logged in as root?
    What do you see if you type

    cat /etc/resolv.conf

    and hit return

    Do you know what editor(s) you've got installed? vi? nano?




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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 15:23:26 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    I am just coming to> terms with the command line interface (the last
    time I used one it was
    on a Teletype).
    OK, welcome to a vertical learning curve.

    Yes!


    Are you logged in as root?

    I suppose so but cannot be certain.

    What do you see if you type

    cat /etc/resolv.conf

    and hit return

    18 lines of text which I cannot expoer in any way, so I would have to
    type them all out by hand. The main bits appear to be:

    This is <long filepath> managed byman:systemd-resolved (8)
    Do not edit
    ........
    Run resolvect1 status to see details about the uplink DNS servers
    currently in use
    ..........
    nameserver 127.0.0.53
    options edns0 trust-ad
    search .


    I typed "resolvect1 status" after the prompt but it gave "Command
    resolvect1 could not be found".


    Do you know what editor(s) you've got installed? vi? nano?

    How do I find that?


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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 15:29:12 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Do you know what editor(s) you've got installed? vi? nano?

    How do I find that?
    try

    nano testfile

    first

    if you do get in, use ctrl-X followed by Y to exit

    failing that try

    vi testfile

    to exit from vi/vim, hit ESC a couple of times then
    :q!



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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 15:32:23 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    18 lines of text which I cannot expoer in any way, so I would have to
    type them all out by hand. The main bits appear to be:
    nameserver 127.0.0.53


    So when it doesn't know an IP address, it's set to ask itself, and
    presumbly it doesn't have a bind server installed so it won't get a
    reply from itself, so it's stuck.

    see the vi/nano message, and maybe you can edit /etc/resolv.conf to put 8.8.8.8 in temporarily

    failing that, maybe consider Vincent's suggestion to wipe ubuntu server
    and start again with ubuntu workstation, so you have a GUI to work with?



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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 15:36:50 2026
    Vincent Coen <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]
    Small point make very sure you are installing the correct version of Ubuntu for you hardware and processor, e.g., ARM or AMD, Intel etc.
    This, is the most important requirement !

    Yes, I was very careful about that. The installer wouldn't work on OS
    13, which was the highest the Mini could use, so I had to do the
    installation using 'Terminal' on the Mac to make a bootable USB stick -
    what a dreadful chore!

    Ubuntu downloaded and works fine in command-line mode but nothing has downloaded properly since.


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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 15:56:37 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Do you know what editor(s) you've got installed? vi? nano?

    How do I find that?
    try

    nano testfile

    first

    It produce two lines of boxes along the bottom of the screen with what
    appeared to be the keystrokes for editing commands.

    if you do get in, use ctrl-X followed by Y to exit

    failing that try

    vi testfile

    That produce a column of tildes (in blue) down the LH side of the
    screen.



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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 16:54:07 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    nano testfile

    It produce two lines of boxes along the bottom of the screen with what appeared to be the keystrokes for editing commands.

    if you do get in, use ctrl-X followed by Y to exit

    failing that try

    vi testfile

    That produce a column of tildes (in blue) down the LH side of the
    screen.
    OK, so you have both nano and vi. I like vi, but if you didn't start
    using it several decades ago, you'll probably hate it, so I'd say stick
    to using nano for now :-)

    first off take a backup copy of your resolver config file

    cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    then edit the original

    nano /etc/resolv.conf

    it should be a fairly simple job to edit the line that says

    nameserver 127.0.0.53

    and make it say

    nameserver 8.8.8.8

    then save changes (ctrl-O)
    and exit (ctrl-X)

    when back at a prompt, see if you can e.g.
    ping www.bbc.co.uk

    if so your downloads stand half a chance ...




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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 17:45:26 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    nano testfile

    It produce two lines of boxes along the bottom of the screen with what appeared to be the keystrokes for editing commands.

    if you do get in, use ctrl-X followed by Y to exit

    failing that try

    vi testfile

    That produce a column of tildes (in blue) down the LH side of the
    screen.
    OK, so you have both nano and vi. I like vi, but if you didn't start
    using it several decades ago, you'll probably hate it, so I'd say stick
    to using nano for now :-)

    first off take a backup copy of your resolver config file

    cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    Fell at the first hurdle:

    cp: cannot create regular file 'etc/resolve.bak' : permission denied


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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 17:49:37 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    Fell at the first hurdle:

    cp: cannot create regular file 'etc/resolve.bak' : permission denied
    You're not logged in as root then, you need to be ...


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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 17:52:03 2026
    Andy Burns wrote:

    You're not logged in as root then, you need to be ...

    Or maybe ubuntu prefers sudo, try

    sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    then if that works

    sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf

    edit, save and exit as discussed before ...

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 20:04:01 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    You're not logged in as root then, you need to be ...

    Or maybe ubuntu prefers sudo, try

    sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    then if that works

    sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf

    edit, save and exit as discussed before ...

    That is beginning to make sense to my addled brain - but...

    Things have moved on and I am now told I should have downloaded the
    Desktop version first. I am downloading it on another Mac which,
    presumably will allow me to make a bootable USB stick to start the Mini.
    The only queston is how I get rid of the existing server system, as
    holding down the 'option' key at startup doesn't give me the option to
    boot back into High Sierra, even though I followed the dual-boot
    instructions to the letter.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 20:04:02 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    nano testfile

    It produce two lines of boxes along the bottom of the screen with what appeared to be the keystrokes for editing commands.

    if you do get in, use ctrl-X followed by Y to exit

    failing that try

    vi testfile

    That produce a column of tildes (in blue) down the LH side of the
    screen.
    OK, so you have both nano and vi. I like vi, but if you didn't start
    using it several decades ago, you'll probably hate it, so I'd say stick
    to using nano for now :-)

    first off take a backup copy of your resolver config file

    cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    then edit the original

    nano /etc/resolv.conf

    it should be a fairly simple job to edit the line that says

    nameserver 127.0.0.53

    and make it say

    nameserver 8.8.8.8

    then save changes (ctrl-O)
    and exit (ctrl-X)

    when back at a prompt, see if you can e.g.
    ping www.bbc.co.uk

    if so your downloads stand half a chance ...

    Have done this with "sudo" prefix as suggested.

    It seemed to go as described but the result was:
    ping: www.bbc.co.uk: Temporary failure in name resolution


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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 21:02:30 2026
    Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    nano testfile

    It produce two lines of boxes along the bottom of the screen with what appeared to be the keystrokes for editing commands.

    if you do get in, use ctrl-X followed by Y to exit

    failing that try

    vi testfile

    That produce a column of tildes (in blue) down the LH side of the
    screen.
    OK, so you have both nano and vi. I like vi, but if you didn't start
    using it several decades ago, you'll probably hate it, so I'd say stick
    to using nano for now :-)

    first off take a backup copy of your resolver config file

    cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.bak

    then edit the original

    nano /etc/resolv.conf

    it should be a fairly simple job to edit the line that says

    nameserver 127.0.0.53

    and make it say

    nameserver 8.8.8.8

    then save changes (ctrl-O)
    and exit (ctrl-X)

    when back at a prompt, see if you can e.g.
    ping www.bbc.co.uk

    if so your downloads stand half a chance ...

    Have done this with "sudo" prefix as suggested.

    It seemed to go as described but the result was:
    ping: www.bbc.co.uk: Temporary failure in name resolution

    i've re-checked /etc/resolv.conf (using sudo nano...) and the nameserver
    is definitely set to 8.8.8.8


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  • From Java Jive@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 22:00:24 2026
    On 2026-10-19 11:59, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini.

    What version Ubuntu Server?

    It runs in
    command-line mode.

    If that is a problem to you, I would advise simply starting again with
    Ubuntu Desktop.

    When I try to download any further files (including
    a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...." errors.

    This happens with a wireless or an Ethernet connection and still occurs
    ater I have re-started the router. I am due to move to a new ISP in a
    couple of weeks, so do not want to start any correspondence with my
    current ISP.

    Yes, I'm afraid this seems to be a common problem with IP4 on various
    versions of Ubuntu, I think IP6 may actually work, but, because here in Scotland, I use a mobile broadband connection which doesn't support IP6,
    I can't actually tell.

    As far as IP4 is concerned, almost certainly the fix will vary with what version you have installed. I have fixes for versions 16 and 18 which I
    give below, but you've probably installed a later version, and it's
    possible that neither will work. Unless you actually have installed 16,
    I'd give the 18 fix a try and see if that resolves the problem.

    Ubuntu v18
    Note: Beware unwanted line wrap in the middle line.

    sudo sed -i -e 's~^hosts:.*$~hosts: files dns # mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] myhostname~' /etc/nsswitch.conf
    sudo ln -sf /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf

    Ubuntu v16
    Note: Beware unwanted line wrap in the last line.
    sudo systemctl disable systemd-resolved.service
    sed -i -e 's~dns=dnsmasq~# dns=dnsmasq~' /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf


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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Mon Oct 19 22:16:09 2026
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-10-19 11:59, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini.

    What version Ubuntu Server?

    It runs in
    command-line mode.

    If that is a problem to you, I would advise simply starting again with
    Ubuntu Desktop.

    When I try to download any further files (including
    a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...." errors.

    This happens with a wireless or an Ethernet connection and still occurs ater I have re-started the router. I am due to move to a new ISP in a couple of weeks, so do not want to start any correspondence with my
    current ISP.

    Yes, I'm afraid this seems to be a common problem with IP4 on various versions of Ubuntu, I think IP6 may actually work, but, because here in Scotland, I use a mobile broadband connection which doesn't support IP6,
    I can't actually tell.

    As far as IP4 is concerned, almost certainly the fix will vary with what version you have installed. I have fixes for versions 16 and 18 which I
    give below, but you've probably installed a later version, and it's
    possible that neither will work.

    It was version 26 but I have been advised to start again with Desktop,
    rather than Server.


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  • From Marco Moock@2:250/1 to All on Tue Oct 20 07:07:05 2026
    Am 19.10.26 um 12:59 schrieb Liz Tuddenham:
    I'm just taking my first steps with Linux and have successfully
    installed Ubuntu Server on an 80 GB partition on a Mac Mini. It runs in command-line mode. When I try to download any further files (including
    a GUI) I get a lot of "Temporary failure resolving ...." errors.

    Networking issue.

    Show us the output of
    ip a
    ip -6 r s
    ip -4 r s

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  • From Andy Burns@2:250/1 to All on Tue Oct 20 07:54:20 2026
    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Have done this with "sudo" prefix as suggested.

    It seemed to go as described but the result was:
    ping:www.bbc.co.uk: Temporary failure in name resolution
    I agree, to save your own time, nuke it and start again with a GUI

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Tue Oct 20 08:38:01 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Have done this with "sudo" prefix as suggested.

    It seemed to go as described but the result was:
    ping:www.bbc.co.uk: Temporary failure in name resolution
    I agree, to save your own time, nuke it and start again with a GUI

    Downloaded Ubuntu Desktop overnight and now in the process of making a
    bootable USB stick.

    Thanks to everyone who helped.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@2:250/1 to All on Tue Oct 20 12:58:33 2026
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Liz Tuddenham wrote:

    Have done this with "sudo" prefix as suggested.

    It seemed to go as described but the result was:
    ping:www.bbc.co.uk: Temporary failure in name resolution
    I agree, to save your own time, nuke it and start again with a GUI

    All up and running. ....Whew!


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