Recently, say over the last couple of weeks, I have been experiencing
problems with my Firefox remembering login data.
Two websites especially. HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code. Even
though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it comes back
up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it always comes back
up again. HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.
The other website is The Telegraph.co.uk, which occasionally throws up
an 'Access Restricted, you need permission' message. I have an active
account, confirmed by them. This message is usually on the home page,
but has recently broadened its range to any page. Sometimes I can
remove it by repeatedly clicking on the Reload button, sometimes it
doesn't work. I can even be on the home page successfully, then I go to
a different tab, and when I return to the home page, I get the 'Access Restricted' massage again.
Has anybody else seen anything similar? I am using Ubuntu 22.04LTS,
Firefox ver. 143.0.1 (64-bit).
As usual, any help most appreciated.

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Davey wrote:

HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code. Even
though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it comes back
up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it always comes back
up again.

Are you clearing cookies more frequently than before?

HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.

Actually, Edge *is* available for Linux, in .deb or .rpm format

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13FJ>

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 11:37:38 +0100
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Davey wrote:

HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code. Even
though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it comes
back up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it always
comes back up again.

Are you clearing cookies more frequently than before?

No, in fact I rarely clear them, only when there is a need or
somebody asks me too, such these websites.

HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.

Actually, Edge *is* available for Linux, in .deb or .rpm format

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13FJ>

Well, I would not have thought that. I might just try it, then.
But it still goes against my dislike/distrust of anything Microsoft!
Thanks.

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Hello Davey!

23 Sep 25 11:22, Davey wrote to all:

Recently, say over the last couple of weeks, I have been experiencing problems with my Firefox remembering login data.
Two websites especially. HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code. Even
though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it comes back
up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it always comes back
up again. HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I
don't think works with Linux. The other website is The
Telegraph.co.uk, which occasionally throws up an 'Access Restricted,
you need permission' message. I have an active account, confirmed by
them. This message is usually on the home page, but has recently
broadened its range to any page. Sometimes I can remove it by
repeatedly clicking on the Reload button, sometimes it doesn't work. I
can even be on the home page successfully, then I go to a different
tab, and when I return to the home page, I get the 'Access Restricted' massage again. Has anybody else seen anything similar? I am using
Ubuntu 22.04LTS, Firefox ver. 143.0.1 (64-bit). As usual, any help
most appreciated.

Have you specified that you refuse cookies ?
If so it would not remember any pre-settings. etc although that said these cookies should be required and be able to opt out.

I do not use HSBC as I dropped them as one of my bankers years ago after
seeing what they support around the world (China for example) but Telegraph
I have no such problems and I do reject cookies (using firefox).


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On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 15:38:22 +0100
"Vincent Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Vince!

Hello Davey!

23 Sep 25 11:22, Davey wrote to all:

Recently, say over the last couple of weeks, I have been
experiencing problems with my Firefox remembering login data.
Two websites especially. HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code.
Even though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it
comes back up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it
always comes back up again. HSBC's solution is for me to use
Microsoft Edge, which I don't think works with Linux. The other
website is The Telegraph.co.uk, which occasionally throws up an
'Access Restricted, you need permission' message. I have an active account, confirmed by them. This message is usually on the home
page, but has recently broadened its range to any page. Sometimes
I can remove it by repeatedly clicking on the Reload button,
sometimes it doesn't work. I can even be on the home page
successfully, then I go to a different tab, and when I return to
the home page, I get the 'Access Restricted' massage again. Has
anybody else seen anything similar? I am using Ubuntu 22.04LTS,
Firefox ver. 143.0.1 (64-bit). As usual, any help most
appreciated.

Have you specified that you refuse cookies ?
If so it would not remember any pre-settings. etc although that said
these cookies should be required and be able to opt out.

Yes, I have told them my cookie habits.(!)

Today, for example, the Telegraph would not let me see the home page,
it would let me see go to one of the links there, then back at the home
page, it refused me access. I cleared the cache, and it would still not
let me in. Later, it did with no problem.
Today, they said that they had recently upgraded their security
systems, and some older browsers do not now work. My version of Firefox
must be one of them.

This one has legs.....

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Hello Davey!

23 Sep 25 16:17, Davey wrote to all:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 15:38:22 +0100
"Vincent Coen" <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Vince!

Hello Davey!

23 Sep 25 11:22, Davey wrote to all:

Recently, say over the last couple of weeks, I have been
experiencing problems with my Firefox remembering login data.
Two websites especially. HSBC, which has been throwing up a

pop-up

after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code.
Even though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it
comes back up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it
always comes back up again. HSBC's solution is for me to use
Microsoft Edge, which I don't think works with Linux. The other
website is The Telegraph.co.uk, which occasionally throws up an
'Access Restricted, you need permission' message. I have an

active

account, confirmed by them. This message is usually on the home
page, but has recently broadened its range to any page. Sometimes
I can remove it by repeatedly clicking on the Reload button,
sometimes it doesn't work. I can even be on the home page
successfully, then I go to a different tab, and when I return to
the home page, I get the 'Access Restricted' massage again. Has
anybody else seen anything similar? I am using Ubuntu 22.04LTS,
Firefox ver. 143.0.1 (64-bit). As usual, any help most
appreciated.

Have you specified that you refuse cookies ?
If so it would not remember any pre-settings. etc although that said
these cookies should be required and be able to opt out.

Yes, I have told them my cookie habits.(!)

Today, for example, the Telegraph would not let me see the home page,
it would let me see go to one of the links there, then back at the
home page, it refused me access. I cleared the cache, and it would
still not let me in. Later, it did with no problem. Today, they said
that they had recently upgraded their security systems, and some older browsers do not now work. My version of Firefox must be one of them.

This one has legs.....

I have logged in to the telegraph this pm with firefox v143.0 (with a note
of an update) with no problems once I logged in using email address and
passwd - I am a subscriber of the printed copy.




Vincent



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On 23/09/2025 11:37, Andy Burns wrote:

Davey wrote:

HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code. Even
though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it comes back
up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it always comes back
up again.

Are you clearing cookies more frequently than before?

HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.

Actually, Edge *is* available for Linux, in .deb or .rpm format

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13FJ>

I expect any Chrome based browser will do.

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 18:43:04 -0000 (UTC)
Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 23/09/2025 11:37, Andy Burns wrote:

Davey wrote:

HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code.
Even though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it
comes back up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it
always comes back up again.

Are you clearing cookies more frequently than before?

HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.

Actually, Edge *is* available for Linux, in .deb or .rpm format

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13FJ>

I expect any Chrome based browser will do.

I have always felt that Chrome ignores the safety systems that other
browsers rely on for security.

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On 23/09/2025 22:41, Davey wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 18:43:04 -0000 (UTC)
Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 23/09/2025 11:37, Andy Burns wrote:

Davey wrote:

HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code.
Even though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it
comes back up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it
always comes back up again.

Are you clearing cookies more frequently than before?

HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.

Actually, Edge *is* available for Linux, in .deb or .rpm format

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13FJ>

I expect any Chrome based browser will do.

I have always felt that Chrome ignores the safety systems that other
browsers rely on for security.

You could try deleting the Firefox snap, adding Mozzila's repo and
installing Firefox ESR. I use Ubuntu because it's familiar, but I've had my
share of problems with Snaps.

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On 25/09/2025 22:33, Jason H wrote:

On 23/09/2025 22:41, Davey wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 18:43:04 -0000 (UTC)
Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 23/09/2025 11:37, Andy Burns wrote:

Davey wrote:

HSBC, which has been throwing up a pop-up
after entering my ID but before asking me for my Security Code.
Even though I always check the 'do Not Remind Me Again' box, it
comes back up later. Not always the next time I log on, but it
always comes back up again.

Are you clearing cookies more frequently than before?

HSBC's solution is for me to use Microsoft Edge, which I don't
think works with Linux.

Actually, Edge *is* available for Linux, in .deb or .rpm format

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13FJ>

I expect any Chrome based browser will do.

I have always felt that Chrome ignores the safety systems that other >>browsers rely on for security.

You could try deleting the Firefox snap, adding Mozzila's repo and
installing Firefox ESR. I use Ubuntu because it's familiar, but I've had my share of problems with Snaps.

Edit: Prototype on a virtual machine first though.

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