On my laptop which I shutdown daily, I am having trouble. Far too often
when I come back to the laptop and reboot, I find that it never
completedd the shutdown (eating up battery in the process), and it
finally completes it when I want to reboot. It may be that I close the
lid too soon, but I certainly try to make sure that it has actually shut
down. Is there anything to do so that it will not stop the shutdown for
example when I close the lid (Dell xps 13 9310)?

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William Unruh wrote:

On my laptop which I shutdown daily, I am having trouble. Far too often
when I come back to the laptop and reboot, I find that it never
completedd the shutdown (eating up battery in the process), and it
finally completes it when I want to reboot. It may be that I close the
lid too soon, but I certainly try to make sure that it has actually shut down. Is there anything to do so that it will not stop the shutdown for example when I close the lid (Dell xps 13 9310)?

Sometimes the human has to change his behavior in how he uses a tool if
that tool is different from some other.

My ThinkPad has not one but two lid power-on lights that show with the
lid down, but if it didn't I would wait for the other power light to go
off that shows with the lid up before I 'leave'.

I looked at the XPS manual. It has a fair number of 'indicator' lights,
but no power light. Seems a little odd, but...

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Mike Easter wrote:

I looked at the XPS manual.  It has a fair number of 'indicator' lights,

Oops; those aren't 'lights', they are IR emitters for camera equipped
models. If you were a snake or a bat, you could go by that :-)

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On 2025-05-15, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

William Unruh wrote:

On my laptop which I shutdown daily, I am having trouble. Far too often
when I come back to the laptop and reboot, I find that it never
completedd the shutdown (eating up battery in the process), and it
finally completes it when I want to reboot. It may be that I close the
lid too soon, but I certainly try to make sure that it has actually shut
down. Is there anything to do so that it will not stop the shutdown for
example when I close the lid (Dell xps 13 9310)?

Sometimes the human has to change his behavior in how he uses a tool if
that tool is different from some other.

My ThinkPad has not one but two lid power-on lights that show with the
lid down, but if it didn't I would wait for the other power light to go
off that shows with the lid up before I 'leave'.

I looked at the XPS manual. It has a fair number of 'indicator' lights,
but no power light. Seems a little odd, but...

Computers are supposed to be programmed to make the human's life easier,
not humans programmed to make the code writer's life easier.

If the computer is in shutdown mode, it should not be paying attention
to the "lid closed" switch

Computers are supposed to be programmed to make the human's life easier,
not humans programmed to make the code writer's life easier.

If the computer is in shutdown mode, it should not be paying attention
to the "lid closed" switch

Computers are supposed to be programmed to make the human's life easier,
not humans programmed to make the code writer's life easier.

If the computer is in shutdown mode, it should not be paying attention
to the "lid closed" switch. It should shutdown. Not doing so is a bug.

Yes the XPS13 has no power on light. The only indiction is that if the
keyboard keys lights go off from on, then shutdown has finished. But
that relies on the keyboard lights being on when you shutdown. But why
should I be trying to stop shutting the lid during the poweroff process?



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On 2025-05-14 18:10, William Unruh wrote:

On my laptop which I shutdown daily, I am having trouble. Far too often
when I come back to the laptop and reboot, I find that it never
completedd the shutdown (eating up battery in the process), and it
finally completes it when I want to reboot. It may be that I close the
lid too soon, but I certainly try to make sure that it has actually shut down. Is there anything to do so that it will not stop the shutdown for example when I close the lid (Dell xps 13 9310)?

Probably not what you want, because it would happen all the time, but in Plasma's system settings/Power management, you can set what happens when
you shut the lid to "Do Nothing."

That's the only thing I can think of. My HP laptops both have a LED in
the power button, so the situation has never come up for me.

TJ

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On 2025-05-15, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:

On 2025-05-14 18:10, William Unruh wrote:

On my laptop which I shutdown daily, I am having trouble. Far too often
when I come back to the laptop and reboot, I find that it never
completedd the shutdown (eating up battery in the process), and it
finally completes it when I want to reboot. It may be that I close the
lid too soon, but I certainly try to make sure that it has actually shut
down. Is there anything to do so that it will not stop the shutdown for
example when I close the lid (Dell xps 13 9310)?

Probably not what you want, because it would happen all the time, but in Plasma's system settings/Power management, you can set what happens when
you shut the lid to "Do Nothing."

That's the only thing I can think of. My HP laptops both have a LED in
the power button, so the situation has never come up for me.

Sometimes I am in a hurry to put my laptop back into my backpack. And sometimes, my machine hangs during the shutdown getting stuck on some
thing with a 2 min timeout for shutting down. Once the system is
shutting down it should shut down not sudeenly being overriden by a
"sleep" or "hibernate" request. That hibernation would be totally useless anyway,
snce the system has been totally comprimised by the shutdown, and could
not run anyway (except to continue the shutdown).

TJ

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