Subject: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into alphabetical
order

Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop
(about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
sudeenly rearrange itself.
The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

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Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
alphabetical order

On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will sudeenly rearrange itself.
The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
boot.

Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is set to use.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
alphabetical order

On 8/3/25 07:54, David W. Hodgins wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop
(about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
sudeenly rearrange itself.
The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
boot.

Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is
set to use.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

I had a similar problem some time ago with MGA8-7-6 ??
I never found out what is was. But I also had issues with the screen resolution differences between the desktop, the graphical boot menu and
the kernel boot messages
One of the files is at root/etc/default/grub

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nokmsboot noiswmd resume=UUID=0f26b0d8-adf7-45cf-a963-cc5d89c1a8e4 audit=0 vga=791" GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=false
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=n
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=Mageia
GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y
GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080x32
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=auto
GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=gfxterm
GRUB_THEME=/boot/grub2/themes/maggy/theme.txt
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10


I believe there is another file(s) somewhere carrying GFXMODE resolution
and they should agree. The Bit Twister was immensely helpful with my
problem.
He commented on why I was the only one to have much trouble with desktop
icons

Maybe someone better with "find" could pull them up
As usual I wish I'd taken notes

--
faeychild
Running kde on 6.6.79-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
alphabetical order

On 2025-03-07, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop
(about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
sudeenly rearrange itself.
The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
boot.

Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is set to use.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Aha, that was probably it. The problem is that I use my machine in
class, and have to have it both on my laptop screen and the projector in
the room. My Dell laptop is 1920x1200 and the projector is 1920x1080, so making the system fit both decreases the laptop screen to 1920x1080. giving me a black bar on top and bottom of the computer screen, which I of course do not
want when I am using the laptop, so I change back to 1920x1200
Is there some way of telling the system not to change the ordering of he
icons, even though the screen size has changed?

I can se that if the screen goes from 1920x1200 to 600x400 something has
to give, but a 10% change in the vertical really should not.

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Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
alphabetical order

On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 18:51:16 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

On 2025-03-07, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote: >>

Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop >>> (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
sudeenly rearrange itself.
The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
boot.

Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is set to use.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Aha, that was probably it. The problem is that I use my machine in
class, and have to have it both on my laptop screen and the projector in
the room. My Dell laptop is 1920x1200 and the projector is 1920x1080, so making
the system fit both decreases the laptop screen to 1920x1080. giving me a black
bar on top and bottom of the computer screen, which I of course do not
want when I am using the laptop, so I change back to 1920x1200
Is there some way of telling the system not to change the ordering of he icons, even though the screen size has changed?

Not that I'm aware of.

I can se that if the screen goes from 1920x1200 to 600x400 something has
to give, but a 10% change in the vertical really should not.

I agree that while it may need to change how many rows or columns it uses, it shouldn't
change the sort order.

You can report it as a bug to kde, but I can see keeping the code dealing with screen
changes being kept as simple as possible as a reason to change the sort order.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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