• [OT] dystopia and 2FA

    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wednesday, October 02, 2024 23:10:11

    I've just been locked out of Yahoo due to 2FA. MY fault, partially due
    to never updating the defunct backup email they had.
    I have an new account with the cold embrace of Gmail/Google and now have
    to update all email contacts, some of which also employ 2FA and want to
    verify with the inaccessible Yahoo account. Circular argument proceeds

    Annoying!. I have phone calls to several utilities today.

    How much of our lives are funneled through an email service which can be withdrawn at anytime. How much do they know about us? How easily could
    they FUBAR all us.

    Anyone running Windows has orders of magnitude greater.

    Fortunately I'm getting on and don't expect to much longer enjoy this
    brave new world, and I doubt that I will rage much against the dying of
    the light

    Recovery mode on

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 03, 2024 05:29:47
    On 3/10/24 08:10, faeychild wrote:


    What I expected to be the major battle with my energy provider rolled
    over quietly
    Finding a human operator within the press 1 press 2 press 3 menu drama required some subterfuge. And, of course, he easily updated my email
    address.

    I feel that it will become increasingly difficult when the A.I's replace
    human entirely.


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  • From Daniel70@2:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 03, 2024 11:11:25
    faeychild wrote on 3/10/24 2:29 pm:
    On 3/10/24 08:10, faeychild wrote:

    What I expected to be the major battle with my energy provider rolled
    over quietly
    Finding a human operator within the press 1 press 2 press 3 menu drama required some subterfuge. And, of course, he easily updated my email address.

    I feel that it will become increasingly difficult when the A.I's replace human entirely.

    .... and the problem with A.I., as I see it, would seem to be that it may
    be 'A.' (Artificial) but I have great doubts about the 'I.' (Intelligence)!!

    Maybe, one day in the future, 'A.I.' WILL be 'I'!!
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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 03, 2024 23:17:38
    On 3/10/24 20:11, Daniel70 wrote:

    ... and the problem with A.I., as I see it, would seem to be that it may
    be 'A.' (Artificial) but I have great doubts about the 'I.'
    (Intelligence)!!

    Maybe, one day in the future, 'A.I.' WILL be 'I'!!

    Agree! I haven't bothered much with A.I.
    How exactly does it work?
    It can't be just a rote process. A huge list of possibilities with an
    "If Then Do This But" script.

    A dog is far more intelligent. Brilliant comparatively.


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Friday, October 04, 2024 19:20:37
    On 2024-10-03, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 20:11, Daniel70 wrote:

    ... and the problem with A.I., as I see it, would seem to be that it may
    be 'A.' (Artificial) but I have great doubts about the 'I.'
    (Intelligence)!!

    Maybe, one day in the future, 'A.I.' WILL be 'I'!!

    Agree! I haven't bothered much with A.I.
    How exactly does it work?
    It can't be just a rote process. A huge list of possibilities with an

    It is a "rote process" but also probablistic. It goes through the web,
    and finds correlation between the sysmbols (letters, phonemes, sysmbols, words....-- apparently Google now uses more than million of them)
    including how far apart they are the texts it uses for training (so that
    gives a 10^12 times distance matrix of occurances, then runs it though a transfomation which reduces that to a manageable number then runs your
    question throught that and makes up an answer by probabilistically
    choosing sybmbols
    Remember that training includes all of Trumps speaches which are on the
    web.

    It is a sociopath. It does not care about truth, or any other moral
    quality you might happen to think about. (The people working in the area
    call those sociopathic answers "halucinations" as if the program had a
    concept of reality.

    "If Then Do This But" script.

    A dog is far more intelligent. Brilliant comparatively.
    Depends on in what aspect.



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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Friday, October 04, 2024 22:29:10
    On 5/10/24 04:20, William Unruh wrote:


    It is a "rote process" but also probablistic. It goes through the web,
    and finds correlation between the sysmbols (letters, phonemes, sysmbols, words....-- apparently Google now uses more than million of them)
    including how far apart they are the texts it uses for training (so that gives a 10^12 times distance matrix of occurances, then runs it though a transfomation which reduces that to a manageable number then runs your question throught that and makes up an answer by probabilistically
    choosing sybmbols
    Remember that training includes all of Trumps speaches which are on the
    web.


    Don't dismiss the rest of our fearless leaders



    It is a sociopath. It does not care about truth, or any other moral quality

    It's made in its creators image then.

    I should/can just document/observe the train wreck, I suppose


    Regards

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