• Why Wine32?

    From Markus Robert Kessler@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, August 04, 2024 08:41:49
    From the beginning when I switched from mga32 to mga64, there was big
    trouble regarding wine.
    I need to have 16 and 32 bit windows executables running, and this seems
    only possible by installing wine32 in addition to wine64.

    This requires to also install further i586 packages to allow wine32
    running.

    Unfortunately, when 64bit packages with same or similar names have to be updated, then mcc requests to delete all i586 packages with same name.

    Hence, wine32 then no longer works, until all these are reinstalled by
    hand (!).

    Interestingly, Ubuntu linux only has one wine64, which can serve 16, 32,
    64 bit windows executables. So, none of these problems occur.

    Why does mageia stick to this oldfashioned wine32 vs. wine64 nonsense?

    BR,

    Markus

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Markus Robert Kessler on Sunday, August 04, 2024 23:03:28
    Hello Markus!

    Sunday August 04 2024 08:41, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:

    From the beginning when I switched from mga32 to mga64, there was big trouble regarding wine.
    I need to have 16 and 32 bit windows executables running, and this
    seems only possible by installing wine32 in addition to wine64.

    This requires to also install further i586 packages to allow wine32
    running.

    Unfortunately, when 64bit packages with same or similar names have to
    be updated, then mcc requests to delete all i586 packages with same
    name.

    Hence, wine32 then no longer works, until all these are reinstalled by
    hand (!).

    Interestingly, Ubuntu linux only has one wine64, which can serve 16,
    32, 64 bit windows executables. So, none of these problems occur.

    Why does mageia stick to this oldfashioned wine32 vs. wine64 nonsense?

    I seem to recall some time back that there was no provision for upgrading
    from 32 to 64 bit.

    The only solution was to install a fresh 64 bit version and transfer data
    that did not need a conversion over from old to new.

    Your problems seem to indicate that this is still the case.

    Installing a 64 bit version allows you to run 32bit applications as mga
    will then install the required extra libs when and as needed providing you
    use mga package manager to install all apps. Therefore it is wise to do
    this with the packages available within mga FIRST before trying outside of
    it.

    Just my 5 pence worth.

    Vincent


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  • From red floyd@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, August 06, 2024 01:59:15
    On 8/4/2024 12:41 AM, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    From the beginning when I switched from mga32 to mga64, there was big trouble regarding wine.
    I need to have 16 and 32 bit windows executables running, and this seems
    only possible by installing wine32 in addition to wine64.

    This requires to also install further i586 packages to allow wine32
    running.

    Unfortunately, when 64bit packages with same or similar names have to be updated, then mcc requests to delete all i586 packages with same name.

    Hence, wine32 then no longer works, until all these are reinstalled by
    hand (!).

    Interestingly, Ubuntu linux only has one wine64, which can serve 16, 32,
    64 bit windows executables. So, none of these problems occur.

    Why does mageia stick to this oldfashioned wine32 vs. wine64 nonsense?

    BR,

    Markus

    Also, Win64 has no support for WOW (16-bit windows apps), so that may
    be why you need the 32-bit version to run 16 bit apps.

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  • From red floyd@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, August 06, 2024 02:00:08
    On 8/4/2024 3:03 PM, Vincent Coen wrote:
    Hello Markus!

    Sunday August 04 2024 08:41, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:

    > From the beginning when I switched from mga32 to mga64, there was big
    > trouble regarding wine.
    > I need to have 16 and 32 bit windows executables running, and this
    > seems only possible by installing wine32 in addition to wine64.

    > This requires to also install further i586 packages to allow wine32
    > running.

    > Unfortunately, when 64bit packages with same or similar names have to
    > be updated, then mcc requests to delete all i586 packages with same
    > name.

    > Hence, wine32 then no longer works, until all these are reinstalled by
    > hand (!).

    > Interestingly, Ubuntu linux only has one wine64, which can serve 16,
    > 32, 64 bit windows executables. So, none of these problems occur.

    > Why does mageia stick to this oldfashioned wine32 vs. wine64 nonsense?


    Also, 64-bit windows didn't support WOW (16-bit apps), so that may be
    why you needed to install the 32-bit version.



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  • From Daniel70@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, August 06, 2024 09:42:20
    red floyd wrote on 6/8/24 10:59 am:
    On 8/4/2024 12:41 AM, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    From the beginning when I switched from mga32 to mga64, there was
    big trouble regarding wine. I need to have 16 and 32 bit windows
    executables running, and this seems only possible by installing
    wine32 in addition to wine64.

    This requires to also install further i586 packages to allow
    wine32 running.

    Unfortunately, when 64bit packages with same or similar names have
    to be updated, then mcc requests to delete all i586 packages with
    same name.

    Hence, wine32 then no longer works, until all these are reinstalled
    by hand (!).

    Interestingly, Ubuntu linux only has one wine64, which can serve
    16, 32, 64 bit windows executables. So, none of these problems
    occur.

    Why does mageia stick to this oldfashioned wine32 vs. wine64
    nonsense?

    BR,

    Markus

    Also, Win64 has no support for WOW (16-bit windows apps), so that
    may be why you need the 32-bit version to run 16 bit apps.

    Hmmm!! I thought the 'WOW' was to indicate the Windows 32 bit OS had
    been 'modified' to run on 64 bit Hardware.

    But what would I know??
    --
    Daniel

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