• Mageia doesn't like Tumbleweed?

    From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jul 19 15:25:47 2026

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    My computer has 3 distributions installed: Slackware 15, Mageia 10
    and openSUSE Tumbleweed. I use grub-customizer on Mageia 10 to
    create the boot screen, but grub-customizer only detects Slackware 15
    and Mageia 10 itself. Tumbleweed is always left out.

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    ocorrência do improvável".
    -- Henry Louis Mencken
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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jul 19 20:43:49 2026
    Gilberto wrote:
    My computer has 3 distributions installed: Slackware 15, Mageia 10
    and openSUSE Tumbleweed. I use grub-customizer on Mageia 10 to
    create the boot screen, but grub-customizer only detects Slackware 15
    and Mageia 10 itself. Tumbleweed is always left out.

    Maybe the 'weed is formatted btrfs.

    Then you would have to chainload it instead of 'straight'


    Now I'll throw in my old anti-clearsign msg.

    Clearsigning is only useful if 'we' your audience (and you *should*
    intend your msg for your audience) have your public key.

    But there is no easy way any of us can have your public key because you
    have given us no 'direction' to it.

    I can figure out the keyID 0x740BF09ABCB6F71A but it isn't on the Ub or
    the MIT keyserver.

    Anyway, my point is that it seems like unnecessary junk in the msg.


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    Mike Easter

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 13:51:03 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:

    Maybe the 'weed is formatted btrfs.


    It isn't. I only use ext4. I tried using btrfs but the fstab ended
    up in a format that was strange to me. From my point of view, there
    was no advantage in using it.

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    -- Cardeal Bellarmino (1615, durante o julgamento de
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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 14:09:44 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Gilberto wrote:
    My computer has 3 distributions installed: Slackware 15, Mageia
    10 and openSUSE Tumbleweed. I use grub-customizer on Mageia 10
    to create the boot screen, but grub-customizer only detects
    Slackware 15 and Mageia 10 itself. Tumbleweed is always left
    out.

    Maybe the 'weed is formatted btrfs.

    Then you would have to chainload it instead of 'straight'


    Now I'll throw in my old anti-clearsign msg.

    Clearsigning is only useful if 'we' your audience (and you
    *should* intend your msg for your audience) have your public key.

    But there is no easy way any of us can have your public key because
    you have given us no 'direction' to it.

    I can figure out the keyID 0x740BF09ABCB6F71A but it isn't on the
    Ub or the MIT keyserver.

    You are right, my keys were not on those servers. Every time I created
    keys using Kleopatra or Kgpg, sending the public keys failed. I
    consulted opencode and it presented a solution for that.

    slack15@darkstar:~/bitcoin/bin$ gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com
    - --send-keys 0x740BF09ABCB6F71A
    gpg: sending key BCB6F71A to hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com slack15@darkstar:~/bitcoin/bin$ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu
    - --send-keys 0x740BF09ABCB6F71A
    gpg: sending key BCB6F71A to hkp server pgp.mit.edu
    gpg: keyserver timed out
    gpg: keyserver send failed: ŝlosilservila eraro slack15@darkstar:~/bitcoin/bin$ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu
    - --send-keys 0x740BF09ABCB6F71A
    gpg: sending key BCB6F71A to hkp server pgp.mit.edu slack15@darkstar:~/bitcoin/bin$

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    -- Henry B. Adams, historiador americano
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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 14:45:18 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Gilberto wrote:
    My computer has 3 distributions installed: Slackware 15, Mageia
    10 and openSUSE Tumbleweed. I use grub-customizer on Mageia 10
    to create the boot screen, but grub-customizer only detects
    Slackware 15 and Mageia 10 itself. Tumbleweed is always left
    out.

    Maybe the 'weed is formatted btrfs.

    Then you would have to chainload it instead of 'straight'


    Now I'll throw in my old anti-clearsign msg.

    Clearsigning is only useful if 'we' your audience (and you
    *should* intend your msg for your audience) have your public key.

    But there is no easy way any of us can have your public key because
    you have given us no 'direction' to it.

    I can figure out the keyID 0x740BF09ABCB6F71A but it isn't on the
    Ub or the MIT keyserver.

    Anyway, my point is that it seems like unnecessary junk in the
    msg.


    My point of view is that everyone should use encryption in
    communications. Emails are read by service providers. The most visible
    effect of this is receiving advertisements about a subject I talked
    about minutes ago. It is annoying to receive ads, but the most
    worrying thing is the possibility of information being leaked and
    falling into the hands of criminals. Here on Usenet, the signature
    serves to say that I have my system configured to use PGP/GnuPG.

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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 18:08:10 2026
    Gilberto wrote:
    gpg: sending key BCB6F71A to hkp server pgp.mit.edu

    That is the fattest key I have ever seen; 309479 bytes.

    Anyway, I imported it into Tb's openpgp and the verification worked
    properly.

    My original plan was to install SeaMonkey on a live LM and use Enigmail,
    but it was quicker to just use Tb's openpgp. That Tb feature is a poor replacement for Enigmail.

    I don't see how your privacy attitudes about your email apply to your
    opinion about clearsigning msg/s in a usenet group full of people who
    don't have your public key.

    Encrypting email is one thing; clearsigning news msg/s is another. The
    reason for clearsigning is so that a reader knows that the msg was
    indeed sent by a specific person, and that actually only really works
    properly if the proper Web of Trust process is established, which it is typically not. Usenet is also sometimes a sporgery haven, but there are
    better remedies for that than clearsigning.

    Your public key's big problem is all of the OLD crap that is in there.
    TONS. The MIT keyserver isn't working very well, and that fat key
    probably doesn't help.

    When I was messing w/ some of this stuff, I luv/ed Kleopatra, not so
    much some other options.


    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 19:39:56 2026
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Your public key's big problem is all of the OLD crap that is in there. TONS.

    I was checking to see if it were possible to edit the key's old sigs,
    but I think it isn't. The advice was to revoke the old key and make a
    new one.

    I suppose one attitude might be, 'What difference does it make?'

    But it REALLY is HUGE.

    If someone wants to display it in their browser: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x740BF09ABCB6F71A

    Really ugly.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 22:06:53 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Your public key's big problem is all of the OLD crap that is in
    there. TONS.

    I was checking to see if it were possible to edit the key's old
    sigs, but I think it isn't. The advice was to revoke the old key
    and make a new one.

    I suppose one attitude might be, 'What difference does it make?'

    But it REALLY is HUGE.

    If someone wants to display it in their browser: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x740BF09ABCB6F71A

    Until we started talking here, I didn't even know or didn't remember
    that it was possible to view the key through a browser. This is not
    pretty or ugly, it is just big. If someone is going to use this with
    my key, they will do it only once. There is little interest from
    people in using GnuPG, so reducing the key size would be a practically
    useless task.


    - --

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    Slackware 15.0 x86_64
    - -==-
    É difícil de imaginar que você é o resultado de milhões de anos
    de evolução.
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    Comment: +-----------------------------------------------------+
    Comment: ! https://t.me/Gilberto_F_da_Silva !
    Comment: +-----------------------------------------------------+

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 22:32:41 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Gilberto wrote:
    gpg: sending key BCB6F71A to hkp server pgp.mit.edu

    That is the fattest key I have ever seen; 309479 bytes.

    Anyway, I imported it into Tb's openpgp and the verification
    worked properly.

    My original plan was to install SeaMonkey on a live LM and use
    Enigmail, but it was quicker to just use Tb's openpgp. That Tb
    feature is a poor replacement for Enigmail.

    I don't see how your privacy attitudes about your email apply to
    your opinion about clearsigning msg/s in a usenet group full of
    people who don't have your public key.

    I have SeaMonkey installed on Linux running on real hardware. The
    browser part I only use to download torrents. One day I configured it
    to open Vuze when clicking on magnet links. The email and Usenet part
    I only use for Usenet.
    - --

    Stela dato:2.461.242,379 Loka tempo:2026-07-20 18:05:32 Lundo
    Slackware 15.0 x86_64
    - -==-
    Assembléia é uma cambada de parlamentares.
    -- Millôr Fernandes
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    Comment: ! https://t.me/Gilberto_F_da_Silva !
    Comment: +-----------------------------------------------------+

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 22:45:37 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Gilberto wrote:
    gpg: sending key BCB6F71A to hkp server pgp.mit.edu

    That is the fattest key I have ever seen; 309479 bytes.

    I created my first keys still using Windows in 2002. Twenty-two years
    later I started receiving notifications that my key was outdated or
    something like that. I created the new keys in 2024 with the largest
    size available. The logic was simple, computers are always increasing
    their processing capacity and I wanted them to be valid for as long
    as possible. There was a time when 54-bit keys were secure and the
    American government even wanted to prohibit the export of the
    technology.

    - --

    Stela dato:2.461.242,397 Loka tempo:2026-07-20 18:31:09 Lundo
    Slackware 15.0 x86_64
    - -==-
    O fato é que depois de viajar anos, esse Voyager não descobriu
    nenhuma forma de vida inteligente pelaí. O Cosmos, ao que parece, é igualzinho à Terra.
    -- Millôr Fernandes
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    Comment: ! https://t.me/Gilberto_F_da_Silva !
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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 22:49:06 2026
    Gilberto wrote:
    This is not pretty or ugly, it is just big.

    You are right, I shouldn't call something ugly just because it is big (fat).

    But it is SOOOO big :-/


    --
    Mike Easter

    --- MBSE BBS v1.1.7.2 (Linux-x86_64)
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1@fidonet)
  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 23:02:37 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Encrypting email is one thing; clearsigning news msg/s is another.
    The reason for clearsigning is so that a reader knows that the msg
    was indeed sent by a specific person, and that actually only really
    works properly if the proper Web of Trust process is established,
    which it is typically not. Usenet is also sometimes a sporgery
    haven, but there are better remedies for that than clearsigning.

    I read this paragraph, reread it and had it translated by two
    artificial intelligences, but to me, the meaning is still unclear.


    - --

    Stela dato:2.461.242,400 Loka tempo:2026-07-20 18:35:45 Lundo
    Slackware 15.0 x86_64
    - -==-
    O céu se ganha com favores. Se fosse com merecimentos, você ficaria
    de fora e seu cachorro estaria lá dentro.
    -- Mark Twain
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    Comment: +-----------------------------------------------------+
    Comment: ! https://t.me/Gilberto_F_da_Silva !
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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 23:07:15 2026
    Gilberto wrote:
    I created the new keys in 2024

    Yes; I can see that, Wed May 22 4:20p PDT (it says; I see that PDT
    doesn't match your posting tz stamp).

    I tho't I could get rid of some old stuff w/ minimize or clean, but it
    didn't work.


    --
    Mike Easter

    --- MBSE BBS v1.1.7.2 (Linux-x86_64)
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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 23:11:27 2026

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    Mike Easter wrote:
    Gilberto wrote:
    This is not pretty or ugly, it is just big.

    You are right, I shouldn't call something ugly just because it is
    big (fat).

    But it is SOOOO big :-/

    Kgpg or Kleopatra created the key at this size. There were no obvious options to determine the key size.


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    -- Grouxo Marx
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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 23:21:15 2026

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    Yes; I can see that, Wed May 22 4:20p PDT (it says; I see that PDT
    doesn't match your posting tz stamp).

    I tho't I could get rid of some old stuff w/ minimize or clean, but
    it didn't work.

    There is a discussion list for GnuPG: gnupg-users@gnupg.org

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    você só pode escolher dois caminhos, um é bom e outro é ruim.
    Livre arbítrio mesmo é poder escolher muitos caminhos, todos bons".
    -- Perrone
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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 23:35:02 2026
    Gilberto wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Encrypting email is one thing; clearsigning news msg/s is another.
    The reason for clearsigning is so that a reader knows that the msg
    was indeed sent by a specific person, and that actually only really
    works properly if the proper Web of Trust process is established,
    which it is typically not. Usenet is also sometimes a sporgery
    haven, but there are better remedies for that than clearsigning.

    I read this paragraph, reread it and had it translated by two
    artificial intelligences, but to me, the meaning is still unclear.

    I'll try again.

    You explained that you encrypt your email for privacy. Fine.

    My 'argument'/position is that mail encryption is a different subject or position than clearsigning usenet. What you are doing here is
    clearsigning your messages.

    The purpose of clearsigning a message is to verify that the person who composed and sent the message is the same person who created the public key.

    But, in the beginning of pgp, the Web of Trust was very 'direct' in
    which people who knew each other assembled in person and exchanged keys
    by sufficient identification of each other, by familiarity or adequate credentials.

    I'm saying that it serves no purpose here to clearsign your messages,
    because those who *might* choose to verify your message here have not collected with you or credentialed you by any form of Web of Trust.

    Moreover, it is my 'belief' or theory or opinion that 'almost no one' is equipped with a method to verify your clearsigning.

    I chose to dig up your public key ID with a tool pgpdump on your
    clearsign. I chose to dig out your public key ID after you tried again
    to put it on a keyserver. That was an 'exercise' for me; I don't
    normally do any of that.

    I argue or opine that it is a small waste of bits to clutter your
    message and message header with the autocrypt data and the body clearsign.

    I'm also familiar with the argument or opinion that there is value in promoting more encryption to the public. I do agree with that, but I
    argue that purpose can be met by JUST including your keyID in your sig,
    but not clearsigning. And, you don't even provide your keyID in your sig.

    We are very off-topic for Mageia; I don't have that up right now to see
    how I would equip it for pgp/gpg; I know about Tb & openpgp; I know
    about Claws and its plugin.

    --
    Mike Easter

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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Mon Jul 20 23:38:48 2026
    Gilberto wrote:
    There is a discussion list for GnuPG:gnupg-users@gnupg.org

    .... or there is an online archive

    https://lists.gnupg.org/


    --
    Mike Easter

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