While there are stupid distros introducing age verification on their
distros to please corrupt politicians, will Mageia have that? I have
already read systemD will have it installed as a service, will Mageia
strip that crap out of systemD?


https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rxt50c/systemd_has_merged_age_verification_measures_into/

Mageia 9 is already a downgrade from 8. I don't install anything that is
to please corrupt politicians.


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Ar wrote:

I don't install anything that is to please corrupt politicians.

I disagree w/ the intrusion as well, but I think Jesse Smith's essay on
the matter was well considered.

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20260316#qa

All about age verification laws and Linux

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On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 05:16:37 -0400, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

While there are stupid distros introducing age verification on their
distros to please corrupt politicians, will Mageia have that? I have
already read systemD will have it installed as a service, will Mageia
strip that crap out of systemD?

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rxt50c/systemd_has_merged_age_verification_measures_into/

Mageia 9 is already a downgrade from 8. I don't install anything that is
to please corrupt politicians.

The age stuff in systemd only applies if you choose to install and use the systemd-homed
package.

I don't currently use the package on my systems though it does have some good features
that some people will want to use. I'm not against them having the option to include it, as long
as it is not made into a requirement.

People living in orwellian places like California, Colorado, China, or Russia, will likely either
have to have age verification used or be put at legal risk.

As Magiea 10 has just reached it's first public beta release, I doubt the birth date part of
systemd-homed has been included. Even if it has been included in systemd-homed, I haven't
read anything about userdrake being modified to support using systemd-homed, the homectl command, or adding the user's birthdate.

I have not started testing Mageia 10 yet myself.

I've installed systemd-homed in the past, for testing, but don't have it installed in any of my
current Mageia 9 installs.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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David W. Hodgins wrote:

People living in orwellian places like California, Colorado, China, or Russia, will likely either
have to have age verification used or be put at legal risk.

Hopefully a sufficient number of people will both flaunt the law and
lead it to court. It is a bad law.

It is a misguided notion to protect children, which it actually doesn't
do properly, and is bad not only for that age group, but all others as well.

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On 20/03/2026 17:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:

The age stuff in systemd only applies if you choose to install and use
the systemd-homed
package.

Ah, I didn't know that.

People living in orwellian places like California, Colorado, China, or Russia, will likely either have to have age verification used or be
put at legal risk.

And UK pushing that Orwellian nonsense.

I have not started testing Mageia 10 yet myself.

I currently don't have any spare machines to try the new Mageia on a
semi-live setup to see what happens. :(

Thanks David for your reply, most helpful.

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On 2026-03-20 13:19, David W. Hodgins wrote:

The age stuff in systemd only applies if you choose to install and use
the systemd-homed
package.

I don't currently use the package on my systems though it does have some good features
that some people will want to use. I'm not against them having the
option to include it, as long
as it is not made into a requirement.

People living in orwellian places like California, Colorado, China, or Russia, will likely either
have to have age verification used or be put at legal risk.

You can add most of the United States to that list, as they have either
passed or are considering such legislation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media_age_verification_laws_in_the_United_States

The result is a patchwork of laws with very different requirements from
each state, probably unworkable when taken as a whole. There are, of
course, court challenges pending on some of these laws.

So far, Mageia has adopted a wait-and-see attitude on the issue.

TJ

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On 21/03/2026 14:26, TJ wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Social_media_age_verification_laws_in_the_United_States

The result is a patchwork of laws with very different requirements from
each state, probably unworkable when taken as a whole. There are, of
course, court challenges pending on some of these laws.

So far, Mageia has adopted a wait-and-see attitude on the issue.

I've read this morning that someone has forked systemD and stripped all
the government spyware out. I hope Mageia will jump on the forked
version, or make an easy install of it.

I am shocked so many Linux distros are pandering to corrupt politicians, instead of going after the politicians and their dirty money.

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On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 11:26:04 -0400, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

On 21/03/2026 14:26, TJ wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Social_media_age_verification_laws_in_the_United_States

The result is a patchwork of laws with very different requirements from
each state, probably unworkable when taken as a whole. There are, of
course, court challenges pending on some of these laws.

So far, Mageia has adopted a wait-and-see attitude on the issue.

I've read this morning that someone has forked systemD and stripped all
the government spyware out. I hope Mageia will jump on the forked
version, or make an easy install of it.

I am shocked so many Linux distros are pandering to corrupt politicians, instead of going after the politicians and their dirty money.

I am not aware of anything I would consider spyware in systemd. Like the rest of linux, systemd
is a tool kit made of many components. If you don't need or want a tool like systemd-homed
then don't use it. By the way, systemd-homed for the most part is about ensuring privacy by
making sure everyting related to a user is in their own home directory, not scattered in
places like /etc/passwd, and making it easy to ensure everything for that usr is encrypted in a
way the /root can not access it.

If you've fallen for the anti systemd propaganda, then don't use Mageia.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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On 2026-03-21 11:26, Ar wrote:

On 21/03/2026 14:26, TJ wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Social_media_age_verification_laws_in_the_United_States

The result is a patchwork of laws with very different requirements
from each state, probably unworkable when taken as a whole. There are,
of course, court challenges pending on some of these laws.

So far, Mageia has adopted a wait-and-see attitude on the issue.

I've read this morning that someone has forked systemD and stripped all
the government spyware out. I hope Mageia will jump on the forked
version, or make an easy install of it.

I've been using Mageia 10 as my production installs on my main desktop
and laptop for about three weeks now, and the only time I was asked to
verify my age was when I accidentally clicked on a link to some adult
content. It was the site that asked about my age, not Mageia, and I
think that is as it should be.

I am shocked so many Linux distros are pandering to corrupt politicians, instead of going after the politicians and their dirty money.

You'd probably also be shocked that I don't automatically consider
politicians that enact laws I disagree with are "corrupt," or that I
don't consider distros that just want to protect themselves from
lawsuits as "pandering" to those politicians.

TJ

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On 20/3/26 20:16, Ar wrote:

While there are stupid distros introducing age verification on their
distros to please corrupt politicians, will Mageia have that? I have
already read systemD will have it installed as a service, will Mageia
strip that crap out of systemD?

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rxt50c/ systemd_has_merged_age_verification_measures_into/

Mageia 9 is already a downgrade from 8. I don't install anything that is
to please corrupt politicians.

The US represents four percent of the global population.
The other ninety six percent is becoming seriously weary of US demands, posturing and fascism.


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Running kde on 6.6.120-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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faeychild wrote:

The US represents four percent of the global population.

That makes it 3rd in population after India & China.

Some people like to make things sound different than they are; for
example, global temperatures. 2025 was cooler than both 2024 and 2023.

So, shall we say that it was the 3rd hottest or what?

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On 2026-03-26 16:52, faeychild wrote:

On 20/3/26 20:16, Ar wrote:

While there are stupid distros introducing age verification on their
distros to please corrupt politicians, will Mageia have that? I have
already read systemD will have it installed as a service, will Mageia
strip that crap out of systemD?


https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rxt50c/
systemd_has_merged_age_verification_measures_into/

Mageia 9 is already a downgrade from 8. I don't install anything that
is to please corrupt politicians.

 The US represents four percent of the global population.
The other ninety six percent is becoming seriously weary of US demands, posturing and fascism.

When all else fails, blame the US. It's always their fault. Or is it?

https://hide.me/en/blog/age-verification-laws-around-the-world/

From the article:

In the last twelve months, a wave of extremely stringent age-verification restrictions has swept across the world, arguably beginning with the UK’s so-called Online Safety Act in July 2025.

This was swiftly followed by Australia’s ban on social media for under-16s in December 2025. Similar age verification requirements have also been signed into law in other countries, like France and Brazil.

The US is behind the curve on this one.

TJ

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faeychild escreveu:

On 20/3/26 20:16, Ar wrote:

While there are stupid distros introducing age verification on
their distros to please corrupt politicians, will Mageia have
that? I have already read systemD will have it installed as a
service, will Mageia strip that crap out of systemD?


https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rxt50c/
systemd_has_merged_age_verification_measures_into/

Mageia 9 is already a downgrade from 8. I don't install anything
that is to please corrupt politicians.

The US represents four percent of the global population. The other
ninety six percent is becoming seriously weary of US demands,
posturing and fascism.

In Brazil, a law like this has been passed. The worst part is that
laws here are very centralized in the federal government. We can’t do
like in the United States and “vote with our feet”—that is, move to another state to avoid a law we don’t like.


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