• time widget on lower bar refuses to change timezone.

    From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Monday, February 09, 2026 23:47:04
    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
    matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
    stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
    says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
    me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
    Chicago time.
    Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.






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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 10, 2026 00:24:56
    William Unruh wrote:
    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time.

    Mageia is systemd.

    You can use timedatectl.

    I don't know what's up w/ your GUI.

    I'm not sure, but it is probably:

    sudo timedatectl set-timezone America/Vancouver

    I don't have a Mageia up right now, but it probably also has a tzselect
    gizmo.

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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 10, 2026 15:19:11
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 16:24:56 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

    William Unruh wrote:
    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time.

    Mageia is systemd.

    You can use timedatectl.

    I don't know what's up w/ your GUI.

    I'm not sure, but it is probably:

    sudo timedatectl set-timezone America/Vancouver

    I don't have a Mageia up right now, but it probably also has a tzselect gizmo.

    bin]$ man timedatectl
    timedatectl list-timezones |grep Canada
    Canada/Atlantic
    Canada/Central
    Canada/Eastern
    Canada/Mountain
    Canada/Newfoundland
    Canada/Pacific
    Canada/Saskatchewan
    Canada/Yukon

    Your system and desktop may have a much more extensive
    set of choices.

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 10, 2026 17:36:26
    On Mon, 09 Feb 2026 18:47:04 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
    matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
    stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
    says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
    me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
    Chicago time.
    Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.

    Plasma and Gnome both like to override system settings.

    In KDE Plasma, run systemsettings. Under Personalization select Regional Settings. Within
    that there are two settings. Region and Language allow you to select how the date and time
    are displayed. Date & Time settings has two tabs. The first allows to to correct the actual time
    and date while the Time Zone setting is where you should be slecting Vancouver.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Mike Easter@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 10, 2026 17:37:24
    Jim wrote:
    On Mon, 9 Feb 2026 16:24:56 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

    William Unruh wrote:
    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time.

    Mageia is systemd.

    You can use timedatectl.

    I don't know what's up w/ your GUI.

    I'm not sure, but it is probably:

    sudo timedatectl set-timezone America/Vancouver

    I don't have a Mageia up right now, but it probably also has a tzselect
    gizmo.

    bin]$ man timedatectl
    timedatectl list-timezones |grep Canada
    Canada/Atlantic
    Canada/Central
    Canada/Eastern
    Canada/Mountain
    Canada/Newfoundland
    Canada/Pacific
    Canada/Saskatchewan
    Canada/Yukon

    Your system and desktop may have a much more extensive
    set of choices.

    Oh; Vancouver, BC, .ca

    I was thinking Vancouver, WA, .us

    In any case, they are both on Pacific time, UTC-8.


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    Mike Easter

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thursday, February 12, 2026 20:33:28
    On 2026-02-10, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Mon, 09 Feb 2026 18:47:04 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
    matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
    stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
    says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
    me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
    Chicago time.
    Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.

    Plasma and Gnome both like to override system settings.

    In KDE Plasma, run systemsettings. Under Personalization select Regional Settings. Within
    that there are two settings. Region and Language allow you to select how the date and time
    are displayed. Date & Time settings has two tabs. The first allows to to correct the actual time
    and date while the Time Zone setting is where you should be slecting Vancouver.

    That did not work. It is the same thing what right click on the widget
    Adjust Time and Date gives you. It shows the correct Vancouvr analog
    clock time and says the time is Vancouver time, but the widget is still
    stuck on Chicago time.
    I finally gave up trying to figure out what is going wrong, removed the
    widget and then reinstalled it, and now the system uses Vancouver time.
    I have not tried to change it to see if it is now stuck on Vancouver
    time. But on my next trip I guess I will find out.



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thursday, February 12, 2026 22:54:41
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:33:28 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote: <snip>
    That did not work. It is the same thing what right click on the widget ->Adjust Time and Date gives you. It shows the correct Vancouvr analog
    clock time and says the time is Vancouver time, but the widget is still
    stuck on Chicago time.
    I finally gave up trying to figure out what is going wrong, removed the widget and then reinstalled it, and now the system uses Vancouver time.
    I have not tried to change it to see if it is now stuck on Vancouver
    time. But on my next trip I guess I will find out.

    While it's too late to confirm due to the reinstall, failing to save the changes properly
    would most likely have been from using "su" instead of "su -", leading to root owned
    files in ~/.config or elsewhere in /home.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Friday, February 13, 2026 08:46:19
    On 2026-02-12, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 15:33:28 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    <snip>
    That did not work. It is the same thing what right click on the widget
    Adjust Time and Date gives you. It shows the correct Vancouvr analog
    clock time and says the time is Vancouver time, but the widget is still
    stuck on Chicago time.
    I finally gave up trying to figure out what is going wrong, removed the
    widget and then reinstalled it, and now the system uses Vancouver time.
    I have not tried to change it to see if it is now stuck on Vancouver
    time. But on my next trip I guess I will find out.

    While it's too late to confirm due to the reinstall, failing to save the changes properly
    would most likely have been from using "su" instead of "su -", leading to root owned
    files in ~/.config or elsewhere in /home.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Well, a search for root owned files in my home dir gave none.
    Now it might be that removing the old widget and installing the new
    wiped that root owned file, except I did all the removal and
    reinstalling as me, not as root, and that should not have allowed removal
    of a root owned file.

    Note it was not a mageia reinstall but a removal of the DateTime widget
    from the bar, and the installation of the DateTime widget to the bar. No
    root involvement at all

    Maybe what I call the bar is called the panel in KDE speak.


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Friday, February 13, 2026 17:49:28
    On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 03:46:19 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote: <snip>
    Well, a search for root owned files in my home dir gave none.
    Now it might be that removing the old widget and installing the new
    wiped that root owned file, except I did all the removal and
    reinstalling as me, not as root, and that should not have allowed removal
    of a root owned file.

    Note it was not a mageia reinstall but a removal of the DateTime widget
    from the bar, and the installation of the DateTime widget to the bar. No
    root involvement at all

    I thought you were talking about a Mageia reinstall.

    Maybe what I call the bar is called the panel in KDE speak.

    In that case, it was most likely a confguration change in that application between the different
    Mageia releases. During upgrade from one release of Mageia to the next, the files in /home
    are not modified. That's because each user in /home may have their files in encrypted file systems
    which may not be mounted, and may not even be on the same computer (nfs etc.).

    If the configuration does change, it's up to the application to handle the modification, so in
    this case it would be up to the kde authors of that plugin to handle converting config file formats.

    I don't recall any date/time widget problems on upgrade, but it's been long enough since I did
    one, I may well have forgotten.

    If the problem was still present, the next step in the debugging process after checking for and
    fixing any root owned files would have been to create a brand new user, to see if that problem
    existed for that user.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 05:38:07
    On 2026-02-13, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 03:46:19 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    <snip>
    Well, a search for root owned files in my home dir gave none.
    Now it might be that removing the old widget and installing the new
    wiped that root owned file, except I did all the removal and
    reinstalling as me, not as root, and that should not have allowed removal
    of a root owned file.

    Note it was not a mageia reinstall but a removal of the DateTime widget
    from the bar, and the installation of the DateTime widget to the bar. No
    root involvement at all

    I thought you were talking about a Mageia reinstall.

    The overall was a Mageia 8-9 upgrade. But the solution was to erase the DateTime widget from the panel bar and then to install it again to the
    panel bar, after it had ceased working after Mageia upgrade.

    Sorry for the confusion


    Maybe what I call the bar is called the panel in KDE speak.

    In that case, it was most likely a confguration change in that application between the different
    Mageia releases. During upgrade from one release of Mageia to the next, the files in /home
    are not modified. That's because each user in /home may have their files in encrypted file systems
    which may not be mounted, and may not even be on the same computer (nfs etc.).

    If the configuration does change, it's up to the application to handle the modification, so in
    this case it would be up to the kde authors of that plugin to handle converting config file formats.

    I don't recall any date/time widget problems on upgrade, but it's been long enough since I did
    one, I may well have forgotten.

    If the problem was still present, the next step in the debugging process after checking for and
    fixing any root owned files would have been to create a brand new user, to see if that problem
    existed for that user.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Friday, February 20, 2026 10:07:04
    On 10/2/26 10:47, William Unruh wrote:
    I am in Vancouver and the date/time widget refuses to go off Chicago
    time. My system time (/etc/localtime) is on Vancouver time, but no
    matter what I do to try to change the timezone on that widget, it stays
    stuck on Chicago time.If I rightclick the widget and go to timezone, it
    says I am on Vancouver time ( the blue marker that is supposed to tell
    me the time zone is on Vancouver, but the time is still displayed as
    Chicago time.
    Mageia 9 uptodate. Plasma.





    It's a real jumble
    I'm glad you sorted your end
    I am yet to get Dolphin icons to display 24 hour time

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    Running kde on 6.6.120-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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