Has ayone gotten Golded to read the new Synchronet 3.20? Or is anyone working on some new code so Golded will work the SBBS?

Thanks,
RickV


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Has ayone gotten Golded to read the new Synchronet 3.20? Or is anyone working on some new code so Golded will work the SBBS?

Golded has worked with Synchronet for quite some time although it needs configuration.

I don't think anything has changed in the SBBS message structure that would break it.

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Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Alan Ianson to Richard Vonzel on Tue Feb 25 2025 10:28 am

Golded has worked with Synchronet for quite some time although it needs configuration.

I don't think anything has changed in the SBBS message structure that would break it.

When SBBS upgraded to 3.20 it went from a msgs.cnf file to a msgs.ini text file that Golded can't read. The message structure is the same but the configuation is now different. It would be great if there was a utility program that could read the msgs.ini file and create a msgs.cnf file.

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Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Richard Vonzel to Alan Ianson on Tue Feb 25 2025 12:52 pm

When SBBS upgraded to 3.20 it went from a msgs.cnf file to a msgs.ini text file that Golded can't read. The message structure is the same but the configuation is now different. It would be great if there was a utility program that could read the msgs.ini file and create a msgs.cnf file.

Unfortunately, you really couldn't be done reliably. One of the reasons for going from .cnf to .ini format was to be able to expand configuration fields and now that we've done that (e.g. 32-char internal codes), those won't "fit" in a msgs.cnf file. If a sysop upgraded from an earlier version of Synchronet, they should still have their msgs.cnf file in place that GoldEd+ could read/use until such time as someone updates the program to read msgs.ini files.
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Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Rob Swindell to Richard Vonzel on Tue Feb 25 2025 12:02 pm

Unfortunately, you really couldn't be done reliably. One of the reasons for going from .cnf to .ini format was to be able to expand configuration fields and now that we've done that (e.g. 32-char internal codes), those won't "fit" in a msgs.cnf file. If a sysop upgraded from an earlier version of Synchronet, they should still have their msgs.cnf file in place that GoldEd+ could read/use until such time as someone updates the program to read msgs.ini files. --
digital man (rob)

So, how about an areas.bbs that GoldEd can read? Mystic creates one that Golded can read as areafile? Maybe on option to create one areas.bbs for all the message areas, and the ability to run it as an event to account for new areas?

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When SBBS upgraded to 3.20 it went from a msgs.cnf file to a msgs.ini text file that Golded can't read. The message structure is the same but the configuation is now different. It would be great if there was a utility program that could read the msgs.ini file and create a msgs.cnf file.

In that case you may need to configure golded by hand area by area in the golded.cfg.

It's no convenient, but it's doable.

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Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Richard Vonzel to Rob Swindell on Tue Feb 25 2025 04:09 pm

Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Rob Swindell to Richard Vonzel on Tue Feb 25 2025 12:02 pm

Unfortunately, you really couldn't be done reliably. One of the reasons for going from .cnf to .ini format was to be able to expand configuration fields and now that we've done that (e.g. 32-char internal codes), those won't "fit" in a msgs.cnf file. If a sysop upgraded from an earlier version of Synchronet, they should still have their msgs.cnf file in place that GoldEd+ could read/use until such time as someone updates the program to read msgs.ini files. --
digital man (rob)

So, how about an areas.bbs that GoldEd can read? Mystic creates one that Golded can read as areafile? Maybe on option to create one areas.bbs for all the message areas, and the ability to run it as an event to account for new areas?

Sure, go for it. I thought GoldEd+ used more than just the sub-board "internal code" from the msgs.cnf, but if it doesn't then perhaps an area file is all it would need.
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Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Richard Vonzel to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 11:05 am

Has ayone gotten Golded to read the new Synchronet 3.20? Or is anyone working on some new code so Golded will work the SBBS?

Looks like this support was added in March 2024: https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/commit/66691f9b969b4d9d8b244f44bfe3 --
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Hello Rob!

14 Mar 25 18:00, you wrote to Richard Vonzel:

Looks like this support was added in March 2024: https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/commit/66691f9b969b4d9d8b24 4f44bfe3

Learning to research your own questions is a skill many sysops don't seem to have anymore.

Fun fact: I was the one who asked Alexander all those years ago to put SBBS support in GoldEd when I was tinkering with Synchronet/2. He did a great job putting basic support in.

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Looks like this support was added in March 2024: https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/commit/66691f9b969b4d9d8b244f44 --

I've seen that, but I don't know what to do with it. I'm not a programmer and have no clue how you would compile it. Tell me how or point me to rhe right direction please.

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Learning to research your own questions is a skill many sysops don't
seem to have anymore.

Sean your very passiveaggressive, You don't know what research has been
done, instead of making a commit criticizing, why not just help?

Rickv

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Hey Richard!

On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:28:58 -0500, you wrote:

Looks like this support was added in March 2024:

I've seen that, but I don't know what to do with it. I'm not a
programmer and have no clue how you would compile it. Tell me how or
point me to rhe right direction please.

You don't need to be a programmer to read what it says, but the "Tell me how" is definitely showing you'd rather someone else do the work for you, so here:

"cfgs/config/advanced.cfg"

"AREAFILE SBBS /path/to/sbbs/ctrl/msgs.ini"

Use the above line in your Golded config file and it should work, unless you're using an older version of Golded that doesn't support it.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Nicholas!

Saturday March 15 2025 09:09, you wrote to me:

You don't need to be a programmer to read what it says, but the "Tell
me how" is definitely showing you'd rather someone else do the work
for you, so here:

"cfgs/config/advanced.cfg"

"AREAFILE SBBS /path/to/sbbs/ctrl/msgs.ini"

Use the above line in your Golded config file and it should work,
unless you're using an older version of Golded that doesn't support
it.

Regards,
Nick

... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I believe it's the latest produced. Just adding that line in the .cfg as an AREAFILE does NOT read the msgs.ini file.

RickV

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Hey Richard!

On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:26:46 -0500, you wrote:

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I believe
it's the latest produced. Just adding that line in the .cfg as an
AREAFILE does NOT read the msgs.ini file.

And you can see the version I'm running in my tearline. Yours is definitely not the latest produced, and the fix for Synchronet's msgs.ini was done March of 2024. Your version is from 2018, so it is expected that it won't work.

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Regards,
Nick

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Hi Richard.

15 Mar 25 10:26:46, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I believe it's the latest produced.

You believe wrong. See http://download.golded.org/

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Hey Richard!

On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:26:46 -0500, you wrote:

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I believe
it's the latest produced. Just adding that line in the .cfg as an
AREAFILE does NOT read the msgs.ini file.

Golded's Github doesn't have a Windows build past 2018, as it is probably expected and assumed one would compile it themselves from there, but with about 2 minutes of searching the interwebs, here is a link to the most recent compiled Windows binaries, courtesy of Max Vasilyev:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19XihNQZk2PsKuYew3y5YC-biHvCgTPqm

I believe Max has been doing this for quite some time, and has posted links to these binaries in this echo for years.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Tommi!

Saturday March 15 2025 18:23, you wrote to me:

Hi Richard.

15 Mar 25 10:26:46, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I
believe it's the latest produced.

You believe wrong. See http://download.golded.org/

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'Tommi

WOW! In all my searching for Golded updates, I have never seem that site before. I stand corrected! I went and got the latested and it works just fine with SBBS 3.20. I am so pleased.

Thank you,
RickV

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Hello Nicholas!

Saturday March 15 2025 11:25, you wrote to me:

Hey Richard!

On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:26:46 -0500, you wrote:

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I
believe it's the latest produced. Just adding that line in the .cfg
as an AREAFILE does NOT read the msgs.ini file.

Golded's Github doesn't have a Windows build past 2018, as it is
probably expected and assumed one would compile it themselves from
there, but with about 2 minutes of searching the interwebs, here is a
link to the most recent compiled Windows binaries, courtesy of Max Vasilyev:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19XihNQZk2PsKuYew3y5YC-biHvCgTP
qm

I believe Max has been doing this for quite some time, and has posted links to these binaries in this echo for years.

Another site I have never seen. That's also very helpful.

Thank you,
RickV

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Re: Re: Golded and Synchronet 3.20
By: Richard Vonzel to Rob Swindell on Sat Mar 15 2025 06:28 am

Looks like this support was added in March 2024: https://github.com/gol ded-plus/golded-plus/commit/66691f9b969b4d9d8b244f44 --

I've seen that, but I don't know what to do with it. I'm not a programmer and have no clue how you would compile it. Tell me how or point me to rhe right direction please.

You need to use a version of GoldEd+ that was built from the source code after March 6, 2024. It looks like the last official release of GoldEd+ was in 2020, so you'll need to get ahold of a pre-release build for your OS (Windows?).
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Hello Nicholas.

15 Mar 25 11:25, you wrote to Richard Vonzel:

You can see the Version of GoldEd I'm running in my tag line, I
believe it's the latest produced. Just adding that line in the .cfg
as an AREAFILE does NOT read the msgs.ini file.

Golded's Github doesn't have a Windows build past 2018, as it is
probably expected and assumed one would compile it themselves from
there, but with about 2 minutes of searching the interwebs, here is a
link to the most recent compiled Windows binaries, courtesy of Max Vasilyev:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19XihNQZk2PsKuYew3y5YC-biHvCgTP
qm

I believe Max has been doing this for quite some time, and has posted links to these binaries in this echo for years.

If you open this page https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/actions - there are fresh builds. They are not for all possible systems, but at least something.

Vitaliy

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Hey Vitaliy!

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 09:02:52 -0600, you wrote:

If you open this page https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/actions
- there are fresh builds. They are not for all possible systems, but at least something.

Unless I'm not looking in the right place, That link takes me to "All workflows" and has no download links for precompiled builds.

When I click on the latest workflow, under jobs it shows 5 builds, but clicking on them only shows the steps it took to build it. Unless one has to be logged into github to download (I wasn't logged in at the time).

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Nicholas.

17 Mar 25 18:09, you wrote to me:

If you open this page
https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/actions - there are
fresh builds. They are not for all possible systems, but at least
something.

Unless I'm not looking in the right place, That link takes me to "All workflows" and has no download links for precompiled builds.

When I click on the latest workflow, under jobs it shows 5 builds, but clicking on them only shows the steps it took to build it. Unless one
has to be logged into github to download (I wasn't logged in at the
time).

When you go to 'Actions' page - there is a list of builds. Click on specific build and you'll find archives with build results.

Probably you need GitHub account for that. I didn't try when I unlogged.

Here's direct link to last build: https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/actions/runs/13903487351


Vitaliy

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Hey Vitaliy!

On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 11:26:52 -0600, you wrote:

When you go to 'Actions' page - there is a list of builds. Click on specific build and you'll find archives with build results.

Probably you need GitHub account for that. I didn't try when I unlogged.

Yeah, seems you need to be logged in to download them. It's not a big deal, as I build myself and don't need it. I just wondered why there was no downloads available when I followed the link, but didn't log in.

Was the original work this done 9 months ago?

After I built it, I noticed the date in my tearline below, yet you seemed to just merge all of this a few days ago. Not a big deal, I was just curious.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Nicholas.

18 Mar 25 17:52, you wrote to me:

When you go to 'Actions' page - there is a list of builds. Click
on specific build and you'll find archives with build results.

Probably you need GitHub account for that. I didn't try when I
unlogged.

Yeah, seems you need to be logged in to download them. It's not a big deal, as I build myself and don't need it. I just wondered why there
was no downloads available when I followed the link, but didn't log
in.

Was the original work this done 9 months ago?

After I built it, I noticed the date in my tearline below, yet you
seemed to just merge all of this a few days ago. Not a big deal, I was just curious.

That was not my change. I've just merged it to the master. Unfortunately I don't have much time to work on GoldEd. I'll let you know when some important changes will be done. I still want to add full iconv support for messages recoding. But code is poorly structured. A lot of duplication. It will take some time.

Vitaliy

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