Hello everybody!

I have a quick easy question for y'all:

I have Mystic and my echo areas and I want to read them on our beloved GolDED+, but I'm having many issues trying to accomplish that.

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read them and no luck.
* Export goldareas.txt but when I try to include it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that works, but that's PITA.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded without so much manual intervention?.

Thank you all

David


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On 17 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

Hello everybody!

I have a quick easy question for y'all:

I have Mystic and my echo areas and I want to read them on our beloved GolDED+, but I'm having many issues trying to accomplish that.

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read them
and no luck.
* Export goldareas.txt but when I try to include it it doesn't work, so
my workaround is to copy the AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that works, but that's PITA.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded without
so much manual intervention?.

Thank you all

David

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023 (4:930/1)

I am trying to do the exact same thing. I can't even get golded to start. I have the mystic export file, but I have no idea how to configure all this.

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Hello David,

On Sun, Nov 17 2024 01:17:33 -0600, you wrote:

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read them and no luck.
* Export goldareas.txt but when I try to include it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that works, but that's PITA.

While it's a PITA, it's the only way to be able to use the AREASEP and some other keywords to actually separate your areas by network or by whatever you define with the AREALISTSORT keyword.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

JAMPATH is for the location of your netmail.jam and echomail.jam files that are read between golded and your tosser. That has really nothing to do with what you're looking for. Those semaphore files (which you may eventually want to utilize) tell the tosser what areas you've actually wrote messages and/or netmails in so that it only scans those areas, rather than scanning all areas every time.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded without so much manual intervention?.

golded\manuals\gold_ref.txt will be your new best friend. :)

For the easiest way, take a look at the AREAFILE keyword. In your case, you may want to try:

AREAFILE AREASBBS d:\path\to\areas.bbs

However, you may not like this method as I don't believe it adds the area descriptions. There may be other ways, though.. I just don't know them. I've always used AREADEF, AREASEP, AREALISTSORT, etc. in combination to make things look a lot better.

Hope that helps!

Regards,
Nick

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I am trying to do the exact same thing. I can't even get golded to start. I have the mystic export file, but I have no idea how to configure all this.

I haven't used golded for a while, but when I did i exported the GOLDED environment variable to point to the directory where the configs are. Something like ...

export GOLDED=/usr/local/fido

should work. Adjust the path as needed and start golded.

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Hello nugax!

16 Nov 24 20:40, you wrote to David Gonzalez:

Are you trying to run gedlnx or golded, if the later it will needs to be linked to gedlnx.

Also use strip on all the programs.

Vince

On 17 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

Hello everybody!

I have a quick easy question for y'all:

I have Mystic and my echo areas and I want to read them on our
beloved GolDED+, but I'm having many issues trying to accomplish
that.

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read
them and no luck. * Export goldareas.txt but when I try to
include it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the
AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that
works, but that's PITA.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded
without so much manual intervention?.

Thank you all

David


--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023
(4:930/1)

I am trying to do the exact same thing. I can't even get golded to
start. I have the mystic export file, but I have no idea how to
configure all this.

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

Vincent


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Hello nugax!

16 Nov 24 20:40, you wrote to me:

On 17 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

Hello everybody!

I have a quick easy question for y'all:

I have Mystic and my echo areas and I want to read them on our
beloved GolDED+, but I'm having many issues trying to accomplish
that.

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read
them and no luck. * Export goldareas.txt but when I try to
include it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the
AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that
works, but that's PITA.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded
without so much manual intervention?.

Thank you all

David


--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023
(4:930/1)

I am trying to do the exact same thing. I can't even get golded to
start. I have the mystic export file, but I have no idea how to
configure all this.

Like I said, my solution was to take AREADEFs from goldareas.txt from Mystic and stuck it into golded.cfg, but if any area changes, you need a do over.

Let's hope someone can weigh in on this.

Cheers

David


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* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023 (4:930/1)

Hello Nicholas!

16 Nov 24 20:59, you wrote to me:

Hello David,

On Sun, Nov 17 2024 01:17:33 -0600, you wrote:

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read
them and no luck. * Export goldareas.txt but when I try to include
it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the AREADEFs from
goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that works, but that's
PITA.

While it's a PITA, it's the only way to be able to use the AREASEP and some other keywords to actually separate your areas by network or by whatever you define with the AREALISTSORT keyword.

Ok, gotcha, and what would be a suggestion?.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

JAMPATH is for the location of your netmail.jam and echomail.jam files that are read between golded and your tosser. That has really nothing
to do with what you're looking for. Those semaphore files (which you
may eventually want to utilize) tell the tosser what areas you've
actually wrote messages and/or netmails in so that it only scans those areas, rather than scanning all areas every time.

Oh, it's only for netmails?, I see. I did implement those semaphores but indeed they do what you say, they scan the whole messagebase and it's grown exponentially it's slow, so can you explain how to make it whole, how can I make it let the tosser in this case mystic to scan snly areas with messages to be sent out?.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded
without so much manual intervention?.

golded\manuals\gold_ref.txt will be your new best friend. :)

For the easiest way, take a look at the AREAFILE keyword. In your
case, you may want to try:

AREAFILE AREASBBS d:\path\to\areas.bbs

However, you may not like this method as I don't believe it adds the
area descriptions. There may be other ways, though.. I just don't know them. I've always used AREADEF, AREASEP, AREALISTSORT, etc. in
combination to make things look a lot better.

I'll look into it, thanks tho

Hope that helps!

Regards,
Nick

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(1:154/700)

David


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Hello David,

On Sun, Nov 17 2024 12:43:02 -0600, you wrote:

Ok, gotcha, and what would be a suggestion?.

A suggestion for what?

What I do here, is I have manually defined every netmail and echomail area with AREADEF in goldarea.inc:

areadef NETMAIL "Netmail" <group> net Jam /path/to/msgbase/netmail
areasep !OTHERNET#1 "Othernet #1" <group> echo
areadef ON1-CHAT "General Chat" <group> echo Jam /path/to/msgbase/ot1-chat
...
areasep !OTHERNET#2 "Othernet #2" <group> echo
areadef ON2-CHAT "General Chat" <group> echo Jam /path/to/msgbase/ot2-chat
...

... and so on until all of your areas are listed. Then include that file into your golded.conf using "include goldarea.inc" without quotes. The AREASEP keyword is just a divider that you can put in to separate things if you care to. It is not needed if you don't want to use it.

Then in golded.conf, you can use the AREALISTSORT keyword with whatever sorting options are available to you, in whichever order you want them in. This is all defined in golded-plus/manuals/gold_ref.txt for better understanding of what each one does and the options available with them.

If you don't care to be so precise, and just want all areas listed in Golded, use the AREALIST method I mentioned in a previous reply.

Oh, it's only for netmails?, I see. I did implement those semaphores but indeed they do what you say, they scan the whole messagebase and it's grown exponentially it's slow, so can you explain how to make it whole, how can I make it let the tosser in this case mystic to scan snly areas with messages to be sent out?.

echomail.jam is for echomail, and netmail.jam is for netmail. Mystic usually creates and reads something similar to these in the mystic/semaphore directory. You will probably have to take a look at the Golded documentation I pointed you to, as well as Mystic's documentation on getting them both to match and work together nicely.

Regards,
Nick

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I guess golded. I just wanted to use the editor. I do not even know what the other file is.

Vincent Coen wrote to nugax <=-

Hello nugax!

16 Nov 24 20:40, you wrote to David Gonzalez:

Are you trying to run gedlnx or golded, if the later it will needs to
be linked to gedlnx.

Also use strip on all the programs.

Vince

On 17 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

Hello everybody!

I have a quick easy question for y'all:

I have Mystic and my echo areas and I want to read them on our
beloved GolDED+, but I'm having many issues trying to accomplish
that.

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read
them and no luck. * Export goldareas.txt but when I try to
include it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the
AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that
works, but that's PITA.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded
without so much manual intervention?.

Thank you all

David


--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023
(4:930/1)

I am trying to do the exact same thing. I can't even get golded to
start. I have the mystic export file, but I have no idea how to
configure all this.

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

Vincent

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... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
___ MultiMail/Win v0.52

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I guess golded. I just wanted to use the editor. I do not even know what the other file is.

Vincent Coen wrote to nugax <=-

Hello nugax!

16 Nov 24 20:40, you wrote to David Gonzalez:

Are you trying to run gedlnx or golded, if the later it will needs to
be linked to gedlnx.

Also use strip on all the programs.

Vince

On 17 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

Hello everybody!

I have a quick easy question for y'all:

I have Mystic and my echo areas and I want to read them on our
beloved GolDED+, but I'm having many issues trying to accomplish
that.

* I've tied exporting areas.bbs from Mystic and have GoldED+ read
them and no luck. * Export goldareas.txt but when I try to
include it it doesn't work, so my workaround is to copy the
AREADEFs from goldareas.cfg into my main golded.cfg and that
works, but that's PITA.

* I alos tried JAMPATH d:\bbs\mystic\msgs\, didn't work either.

What am I doing wrong?, how can I integrated Mystic and Golded
without so much manual intervention?.

Thank you all

David


--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023
(4:930/1)

I am trying to do the exact same thing. I can't even get golded to
start. I have the mystic export file, but I have no idea how to
configure all this.

... Kids: They're not sleeping, they're recharging!

Vincent

--- Mageia Linux v9 X64/Mbse v1.1.0/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
* Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
___ MultiMail/Win v0.52

--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64)
* Origin: The ByteXchange BBS | bbs.thebytexchange.com (1:19/37)