Hello everybody!

After reviewing the wiki on migrating Synchronet, I removed and did a fresh install on my Linux
Mint VM. After the install I set it up slightly with scfg. I then copied my data, ctrl, node*,
text, mods,and xtrn directories. After that when I ran scfg again, nothing was updated, everything
was the way it was before I copied the directories. Am I missing something, why is Synchronet not
reading the newer files?

P.S. Running Synchronet 3.21a Windows 11/64 and Linux Mint/64

Thanks,
RickV


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On 04 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

Hello everybody!

After reviewing the wiki on migrating Synchronet, I removed and did a fresh install on my Linux
Mint VM. After the install I set it up slightly with scfg. I then copied my data, ctrl, node*,
text, mods,and xtrn directories. After that when I ran scfg again,
nothing was updated, everything
was the way it was before I copied the directories. Am I missing something, why is Synchronet not
reading the newer files?

now that i figured out why i couldnt reply here on my own system. :) do you have your file permissions on the linux side set correctly?

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Re: Re: Migrate Question
By: Robert Wolfe to RickV on Fri Sep 05 2025 10:13 am

now that i figured out why i couldnt reply here on my own system. :) do you have your file permissions on the linux side set correctly?

... Nine times out of ten the statisticians are wrong

Yea, but still not working right. I think I'm getting close.

RickV

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On 05 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

Re: Re: Migrate Question
By: Robert Wolfe to RickV on Fri Sep 05 2025 10:13 am

now that i figured out why i couldnt reply here on my own system. :) you have your file permissions on the linux side set correctly?

Yea, but still not working right. I think I'm getting close.

Just curious, what have you found so far?

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Hello Robert!

21 Mar 71 21:03, you wrote to me:

On 05 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

Re: Re: Migrate Question
By: Robert Wolfe to RickV on Fri Sep 05 2025 10:13 am

now that i figured out why i couldnt reply here on my own

system. :)

you have your file permissions on the linux side set

correctly?

Yea, but still not working right. I think I'm getting close.

Just curious, what have you found so far?

Well, I'll try and not be long winded. I have removed and reinstall SBBS about 4 times, installed with the git repo and and ran make. I also followed the unix install from the wiki's. The 1st couple of times it installed into a dir of /home/sbbs/sbbs/, I have copied my Windows SBBS right over the top of it, but it never took for some reason. So I started using ChatGPT, that helped alot. Finally I installed it on the root as /sbbs copied the main directories of sbbs and it'sup and running now. ChatGPT helped correct all the old windows directories and it's working just like under Windows.

I know it probably isn't the way it should have gone, but it seems clean and running good. check it out if you'd like... livewirebbs.com:1025.

RickV





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Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to Robert Wolfe on Fri Sep 05 2025 01:33 pm

Well, I'll try and not be long winded. I have removed and reinstall SBBS about 4 times, installed with the git repo and and ran make. I also followed the unix install from the wiki's. The 1st couple of times it installed into a dir of /home/sbbs/sbbs/, I have copied my Windows SBBS right over the top of it, but it never took for some reason. So I started using ChatGPT, that helped alot. Finally I installed it on the root as /sbbs copied the main directories of sbbs and it'sup and running now. ChatGPT helped correct all the old windows directories and it's working just like under Windows.

What exactly did ChatGPT tell you that was helpful in this matter?
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Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to Robert Wolfe on Fri Sep 05 2025 01:33 pm

right over the top of it, but it never took for some reason. So I started using ChatGPT, that helped a lot.

What did ChatGPT help with? I've often found ChatGPT is very wrong with certain things, especially Synchronet, as it probably doesn't know much about Synchronet but it still tries to come up with something.

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Re: Migrate Question
By: Nightfox to RickV on Fri Sep 05 2025 05:21 pm

Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to Robert Wolfe on Fri Sep 05 2025 01:33 pm

right over the top of it, but it never took for some reason. So I started using ChatGPT, that helped a lot.

What did ChatGPT help with? I've often found ChatGPT is very wrong with certain things, especially Synchronet, as it probably doesn't know much about Synchronet but it still tries to come up with something.

Confident, but wrong, usually.
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Re: Migrate Question
By: Digital Man to RickV on Fri Sep 05 2025 02:50 pm

of times it installed into a dir of /home/sbbs/sbbs/,
I have copied my Windows SBBS right over the top of it, but it never
took for some reason. So I started using ChatGPT, that helped alot. Finally I installed it on the root as /sbbs copied the main
directories of sbbs and it'sup and running now. ChatGPT helped
correct all the old windows directories and it's working just like
under Windows.

What exactly did ChatGPT tell you that was helpful in this matter?

really , i'd like to see that chat log. chatgpt would be giving all kinds of wrong advice.
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On 05 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

I know it probably isn't the way it should have gone, but it seems
clean and running good. check it out if you'd like... livewirebbs.com:1025.

As soon as I can find a decent telnet client that works under Windows Server 2025 I will.

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Re: Re: Migrate Question
By: Robert Wolfe to RickV on Sat Sep 06 2025 10:33 am

On 05 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

I know it probably isn't the way it should have gone, but it seems clean and running good. check it out if you'd like... livewirebbs.com:1025.

As soon as I can find a decent telnet client that works under Windows
Server 2025 I will.

let us know when you find one.
also shouldnt a server be a server and not something for someone to use
as a home computer
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Re: Re: Migrate Question
By: Robert Wolfe to RickV on Sat Sep 06 2025 10:33 am

On 05 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

I know it probably isn't the way it should have gone, but it seems clean and running good. check it out if you'd like... livewirebbs.com:1025.

As soon as I can find a decent telnet client that works under Windows Server 2025 I will.

SyncTERM doesn't work?
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On 06 Sep 2025, MRO said the following...

Re: Re: Migrate Question
By: Robert Wolfe to RickV on Sat Sep 06 2025 10:33 am

On 05 Sep 2025, RickV said the following...

I know it probably isn't the way it should have gone, but it seems clean and running good. check it out if you'd like...

let us know when you find one.
also shouldnt a server be a server and not something for someone to use
as a home computer

I run it in a VM.

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On 06 Sep 2025, Digital Man said the following...

As soon as I can find a decent telnet client that works under Windows S 2025 I will.

SyncTERM doesn't work?

I'm sure it will, but 1) I forgot about SyncTerm, and so, (2) Haven't tried it yet, so :) But will do so today. Thank you for the gentle reminder.

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Hello MRO!

22 Mar 71 06:17, you wrote to Digital Man:

Re: Migrate Question
By: Digital Man to RickV on Fri Sep 05 2025 02:50 pm

of times it installed into a dir of /home/sbbs/sbbs/,
I have copied my Windows SBBS right over the top of it, but it

never

took for some reason. So I started using ChatGPT, that helped

alot.

Finally I installed it on the root as /sbbs copied the main
directories of sbbs and it'sup and running now. ChatGPT helped
correct all the old windows directories and it's working just

like

under Windows.

What exactly did ChatGPT tell you that was helpful in this matter?

I had ChatGPT create a java script to read the msgs.ini and create a "goldedarea.txt file with group ID's, sorted by ID, put in my Golded directory and read by same. Works great. One for Windows and one for Linux.

RickV



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Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to MRO on Sat Sep 06 2025 02:13 pm

What exactly did ChatGPT tell you that was helpful in this matter?

I had ChatGPT create a java script to read the msgs.ini and create a "goldedarea.txt file with group ID's, sorted by ID, put in my Golded directory and read by same. Works great. One for Windows and one for Linux.

I'm surprised ChatGPT was able to create a working JavaScript script to do that for you. I've seen people ask ChatGPT things about Synchronet and it would usually get things wrong - but it would still sound confident in what it gave you.

Nightfox

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Hello Nightfox!

15 Apr 71 07:04, you wrote to me:

Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to MRO on Sat Sep 06 2025 02:13 pm

What exactly did ChatGPT tell you that was helpful in this
matter?

I had ChatGPT create a java script to read the msgs.ini and
create a "goldedarea.txt file with group ID's, sorted by ID, put
in my Golded directory and read by same. Works great. One for
Windows and one for Linux.

I'm surprised ChatGPT was able to create a working JavaScript script
to do that for you. I've seen people ask ChatGPT things about
Synchronet and it would usually get things wrong - but it would still sound confident in what it gave you.

Nightfox

I started by telling ChatGPT to read the msgs.ini, I copied the output that MysticBBS creates when you have it make a goldedarea.txt. With that information it created a java script to make me a text file that added group id's, and sort by those id's. After a couple of tweeks it now makes me a "Goldedareas.txt file that I tell GoldED to read with an "INCLUDE". I have one for my Windows and Linux systems. I also had ChatGPT make a Python script for Mystic to tweek the output that Mystic creates to work better with Golded also.

Now ChatGPT sometimes has to really work on what I want, but it does give me exactly what I want done.

RickV


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Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to MRO on Sat Sep 06 2025 02:13 pm

I had ChatGPT create a java script to read the msgs.ini and create
a "goldedarea.txt file with group ID's, sorted by ID, put in my
Golded directory and read by same. Works great. One for Windows
and one for Linux.

you mean .js?

yeah it does okay with text formatting.
but i havent seen it do anything else correctly.
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Re: Migrate Question
By: MRO to RickV on Sun Sep 21 2025 09:40 pm

you mean .js?

yeah it does okay with text formatting.
but i havent seen it do anything else correctly.
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Yea of course. I've also had it look at a Mystic python script and convert it into java for SBBS. That kinda worked.

RickV

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Re: Migrate Question
By: MRO to RickV on Sun Sep 21 2025 09:40 pm

I had ChatGPT create a java script to read the msgs.ini and create a

you mean .js?

Yes, he did say "java script", which is indeed .js ...

Nightfox

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Re: Migrate Question
By: RickV to MRO on Mon Sep 22 2025 07:30 am

Yea of course. I've also had it look at a Mystic python script and convert it into java for SBBS. That kinda worked.

Synchronet doesn't use Java; I think you mean JavaScript.

Also I'm surprised that worked, unless you're very specific about pointing ChatGPT to Mystic and Synchronet's documentation and ChatGPT was able to figure everything out. I'm skeptical about ChatGPT being able to do that though.

Nightfox

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