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"If you run into one asshole, he's the asshole. If your day is full of
assholes, you're the asshole..."
Shouldn't you be telling some boring story about how you used punch cards an sip coffe and eat pine nut muffins in starbucks.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to MRO <=-
"If you run into one asshole, he's the asshole. If your day is full of
assholes, you're the asshole..."
Shouldn't you be telling some boring story about how you used punch cards an sip coffe and eat pine nut muffins in starbucks.
My previous point stands.
I don't believe it. I've even proven in the past that people were using fake accounts to make these posts.
you misunderstand what i was saying. yeah i was a dick to people. and
nobody got chased away. nobody. Nobody got chased away by anybody.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on
Sat Sep 21 2024 03:35 pm
"If you run into one asshole, he's the asshole. If your day is full
of
assholes, you're the asshole..."
Shouldn't you be telling some boring story about how you used punch
cards
an sip coffe and eat pine nut muffins in starbucks.
My previous point stands.
Re: Re: New SysopsThey may SAY it, but they are probably lying. they are using it as an excuse to bow out because they do not have the time and interest to run a bbs.
By: MRO to echicken on Sat Sep 21 2024 15:30:22
I don't believe it. I've even proven in the past that people were using fake accounts to make these posts.
I'm not talking about butthurt rage posts that people went out of their
way
to make, or some sock puppet smear campaign. It's just stuff that has come up offhand in conversations, and things people have said to me privately.
you misunderstand what i was saying. yeah i was a dick to people. and
I wasn't even talking about you until you made it about yourself. You may recall my original reply was to Gamgee. It was him and Nelgin I was thinking of in particular - and not because they're so awful or I dislike them or
I've been around for six years and also have no memory of the MRO troll
helping anyone, other than basic silly question stuff.
You know, I think I added filters long ago to keep his messages from even showing up on my board.
you misunderstand what i was saying. yeah i was a dick to people. and many people were fools or dicks to me. whatever! it's online shit, who cares.
nobody got chased away. nobody. Nobody got chased away by anybody.
They may SAY it, but they are probably lying. they are using it as an
I'd like to know who and speak to them about it. I honestly don't believe
thread i can see. gamgee isnt THAT bad in regards to people who need help.
The other thing I'll give him, is that he does generate activity. For good or for bad, it's activity.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: MRO to echicken on Sun Sep 22 2024 07:18:32
They may SAY it, but they are probably lying. they are using it as an
I'd like to know who and speak to them about it. I honestly don't believe
I'm sure they'd love to be called out and hear from "one of the dicks" too. Alas I didn't keep a logbook and I'm not going to spend my time tracking down comments. What would be the point? You'd just come up with your own explanation, as above.
Right. Neither him nor Nelgin are THAT bad. They know what they're talking about, they're capable of helping and explaining things and often do. Sometimes it just gets out of hand. Rein it in a bit is all I was saying.
That is a great thing. It's what this damn hobby needs more of. I enjoy a bit of debate but like e-chicken said, with a bit of 'nice' thrown in. It
And it's fine, I mean, people will spar and poke at each other sometimes and it's not a big deal, sometimes it's fun. I was more lamenting these situations where there's a knowledge gap or a tech support session that isn't working out, and it devolves into a long thread of abuse.
I generally like the way Avon handles it over on fsx, stepping in to nudge people in the right direction when things go overboard.
okay but maybe you are just putting it together in your head that way and it's not entirely true. i can back up shit i say, you can't in this case.
rarely wrong. I'll repeat myself: these people that say they are quitting bbsing for good because of what they see on dovenet are just using it to
save face and don't want to be bbsing at all period. They would prefer to
use facebook or instagram. I'm not sure why you can't wrap your head around it, i've seen people leave bbsing for better things many times.
understand that it's not your job to help people. And it feels wrong to just ignore people that need help. If someone asks me for help I can't
other people have this good trait. It just gets draining. Right now I'm retired in bbsing. I don't keep track of shit, I don't like most of the people left in the communities and I don't like the state of everything.
I don't spend much time on it.
they're both very smart and they have seen a lot. with avon i've heard he sensors a lot and fxnet is biased.
echicken wrote to MRO <=-
I'm just asking people to be a bit slower to throw insults around and
be a little less shitty to each other.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: MRO to echicken on Sun Sep 22 2024 18:59:44
okay but maybe you are just putting it together in your head that way and it's not entirely true. i can back up shit i say, you can't in this case.
"Nah, you're lying", "Nah, they're lying", and "Trust me, I know this stuff" is just you deciding what's what. That's not actually backing anything up.
It's okay, we both have our positions and neither is going to change.
Save face in front of who, though? If you're going to bail from the hobby, just disappear. It's not we're going to be gossiping and mocking and asking
Honest question - why do you bother at all? You seem so sour about the whole thing, generally miserable and combative in your messages. What's the point?
I tend to drop stuff from my life when it's not working for me anymore and focus on people and things that make me happy. Sometimes it's hard to let go but it's always been for the best.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: MRO to echicken on Sun Sep 22 2024 21:53:59
they're both very smart and they have seen a lot. with avon i've heard he sensors a lot and fxnet is biased.
No censorship that I'm aware of. Typically he just steps in if things get too heated or political and asks people to cool it down. That's about it.
Isn't that what Jesus said?
You can't find one guy who quit a hobby because of what someone said to
I'm suprised you lack this understanding of people.
lot of synchronet and bbs people. I'm also not so sure you TRULY realize how badly you have acted in the past, especially when grouped up with fellow immature bad actors. You talking about this stuff is ironic.
posting msgs 2 mins a day has no bad effect on me. it does not detract from any focus on people or things. why do you even care?
I'm sure they'd love to be called out and hear from "one of the dicks" too. Alas I didn't keep a logbook and I'm not going to spend my time tracking down comments. What would be the point? You'd just come up with your own explanation, as above.
they're both very smart and they have seen a lot. with avon i've heard he sensors a lot and fxnet is biased.
No censorship that I'm aware of. Typically he just steps in if things get too heated or political and asks people to cool it down. That's about it.
I don't know about bias. Perhaps it's perceived by people ranting from some viewpoint and deciding it's the viewpoint and not the ranting that was the problem.
politics here" before Avon steps in and seemingly tells viewpoint B person they need to drop it even though they weren't the ones who started the
I think it is like in sports where the person who retaliates is often the one that gets called for the foul but, to others, it could come off as
People that know me and interact with me know i'm not. I'm not miserable at all. If you look up most shit you will see that i'm actually reacting to someone attacking me, as well.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: MRO to echicken on Mon Sep 23 2024 05:00:30
You can't find one guy who quit a hobby because of what someone said to
I wasn't talking about people quitting the hobby. I don't know why you're stuck on that.
posting msgs 2 mins a day has no bad effect on me. it does not detract from any focus on people or things. why do you even care?
I was just curious. I wouldn't even spend those two minutes on something completely optional that I don't enjoy, but that's me.
And it's fine, I mean, people will spar and poke at each other sometimes and it's not a big deal, sometimes it's fun. I was more lamenting these
I generally like the way Avon handles it over on fsx, stepping in to
nudge people in the right direction when things go overboard.
I don't get mad at you people, even though I do have a low opinion of a lot of synchronet and bbs people. I'm also not so sure you TRULY
echicken wrote to MRO <=-
I'm just asking people to be a bit slower to throw insults around and
be a little less shitty to each other.
Isn't that what Jesus said?
I thought that's what you were talking about? So are you saying they quit synchronet for another bbs software because of rude people in the msg bases?
So my point, directed at those giving support, was maybe tone down the abuse > bit and show a little more patience. That's all. I'm not asking for saintly
behavior, and at some point it's okay to express your frustration. It's just > two cents, and I'm nobody, so they can do with that what they will.
I checked out fxnet and not only does it have the same people and the same discussions as any other network, it's just as or even more boring.
There are people/bbses on there that I don't see in any other network echoes, just like there are some people I only see in FIDO echoes.
There are others (like me) that are on a lot of networks.
I'm just asking people to be a bit slower to throw insults around and be
a little less shitty to each other.
Isn't that what Jesus said?
I don't know how you thought of jesus out of that, as the first thing I thought of after seeing, "be a little less shitty to each other."
There's a bible passage, Proverbs 19:11, that says "Good sense makes one slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an offense."
I checked out fxnet and not only does it have the same people and the same discussions as any other network, it's just as or even more boring.
There are people/bbses on there that I don't see in any other network echoes, just like there are some people I only see in FIDO echoes.
There are others (like me) that are on a lot of networks.
MRO/JAS Hud will never get any respect from me for stuff he has doneI don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is another
in the past to me and others that YES, he has run off from the hobby,
and still does to the day.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Sep 24 2024 09:12:00
There are people/bbses on there that I don't see in any other
network echoes, just like there are some people I only see in
FIDO echoes.
There are others (like me) that are on a lot of networks.
On the flip side, there's me who is on very few networks. I find that
FSX & DOVE are different enough (with topics & people) that they
aren't redundant to each other, but I probably wouldn't add many
others. The only other net I have is Fido, and I'm not sure why I
bother as I never pay attention to it.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is another matter. He's in the global shit list and will be permanently. I considered only
My back yard is looking pretty rough now, but it's nice to know I'm taking holy shits.
Take it to the Religion sub! :-P
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:35:12 -0400
"kk4qbn" (VERT/KK4QBN) <VERT/KK4QBN!kk4qbn@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
MRO/JAS Hud will never get any respect from me for stuff he has doneI don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is another
in the past to me and others that YES, he has run off from the hobby,
and still does to the day.
matter. He's in the global shit list and will be permanently. I
considered only blocking him in my personal list but given the number
of people who have total disdain for him, I made the decision that it
would be better for the community as a whole to just stop him ever
getting to my BBS.
From what I've heard, time and again he's proven my decision right.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: nelgin to All on Tue Sep 24 2024 02:24 pm
I don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is
another matter. He's in the global shit list and will be
permanently. I considered only
MRO and Jas Hud are the same person.
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: nelgin to All on Tue Sep 24 2024 14:24:41
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:35:12 -0400
"kk4qbn" (VERT/KK4QBN) <VERT/KK4QBN!kk4qbn@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:
MRO/JAS Hud will never get any respect from me for stuff he hasI don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is another
done in the past to me and others that YES, he has run off from
the hobby, and still does to the day.
matter. He's in the global shit list and will be permanently. I
considered only blocking him in my personal list but given the
number of people who have total disdain for him, I made the
decision that it would be better for the community as a whole to
just stop him ever getting to my BBS.
From what I've heard, time and again he's proven my decision
right.
He is the same guy..
So my point, directed at those giving support, was maybe tone down the abuse a bit and show a little more patience. That's all. I'm not asking for saintly behavior, and at some point it's okay to express your frustration. It's just my two cents, and I'm nobody, so they can do with that what they will.
Deuteronomy 23:12-13 "You shall have a designated area outside the camp
to which you shall go. As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement."
JustaXnet, STN, familynet, and the like. Those that are left and
usually filled with test posts. I try to start a conversation from time
to time but they usually just fizzle out. Maybe in less than 5 years I
can see fido and fsxnet being the only FTN networks left.
Firstly, thanks to echicken for his support of Synchronet, and the doors
so ago and was told to hit their irc channel for help. Never again unless you enjoy being ridiculed. Don't remember who was there but 'there was no help'
Rob will hate me for saying this but he is the one to discuss problems with. To the point, but you will get an answer. :-)
It's a damn good thing you don't live in one of those darned T.O. condominimums.
There aren't any musicians on bbs's
I got the ridiculous idea a couple years ago to start a new net called Bluesnet. The idea was to cover nusician type conversations and related subjects. Not which album you once had, but playing in public, advertising, equipment, and the like. I still have it and there are a few on there but not what I thought there would be. There aren't any musicians on bbs's (except maybe Rob). I admin a couple music related groups on Facebook with thousands of followers. That's where the musicians are. <shrug> :-)
Anyway...Bluesnet does sound a bit niche. There are musicians here, I play some drums, keyboards, guitar, and I have a recorder somewhere :) but blues isn't in my wheelhouse.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:35:12 -0400
"kk4qbn" (VERT/KK4QBN) <VERT/KK4QBN!kk4qbn@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
MRO/JAS Hud will never get any respect from me for stuff he has done
in the past to me and others that YES, he has run off from the hobby,
and still does to the day.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is another
matter. He's in the global shit list and will be permanently. I
considered only blocking him in my personal list but given the number
of people who have total disdain for him, I made the decision that it
would be better for the community as a whole to just stop him ever
getting to my BBS.
getting to my BBS.
From what I've heard, time and again he's proven my decision right.
Re: New Sysops
By: Digital Man to echicken on Tue Sep 24 2024 13:17:48
Take it to the Religion sub! :-P
No way, those guys are mean over there. They almost made me quit BBSing.
echicken
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 13:04:55 -0700
"Nightfox" (VERT/DIGDIST) <VERT/DIGDIST!Nightfox@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: nelgin to All on Tue Sep 24 2024 02:24 pm
I don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is
another matter. He's in the global shit list and will be
permanently. I considered only
MRO and Jas Hud are the same person.
So I was informed earlier. I had no idea, tbh, which really shows how
much I take notice of what goes on here :)
I have Synchronet running here as a mess conf hub for some feeds. All ports are disconnected except binkp. I had a little issue back a year or so ago and was told to hit their irc channel for help. Never again unless you enjoy being ridiculed. Don't remember who was there but 'there was no help'
I got the ridiculous idea a couple years ago to start a new net called Bluesnet. The idea was to cover nusician type conversations and related subjects. Not which album you once had, but playing in public, advertising, equipment, and the like. I still have it and there are a few on there but not what I thought there would be. There aren't any musicians on bbs's (except maybe Rob). I admin a couple music related groups on Facebook with thousands of followers. That's where the musicians are. <shrug> :-)
Re: Re: New Sysops
By: Mickey to nelgin on Tue Sep 24 2024 07:52 pm
There aren't any musicians on bbs's
I beg your pardon!
https://soundcloud.com/byteshift :)
o
(O)
BeLLy
I got the ridiculous idea a couple years ago to start a new net called Bluesnet. The idea was to cover nusician type conversations and related subjects. Not which album you once had, but playing in public, advertising, equipment, and the like. I still have it and there are a few
on bbs's (except maybe Rob). I admin a couple music related groups on Facebook with thousands of followers. That's where the musicians are.
which was music based, I believe. I suggested they not bother because we really didn't need YADN (Yet Another Dead Network). True to form, I was labeled an asshole for daring to stifle the air of out a sysop who wanted to waste his time on a dead network. Heck, we already have a dead music
I don't think I've ever had a problem with Jas Hud. MRO is
another matter. He's in the global shit list and will be
permanently. I considered only
MRO and Jas Hud are the same person.
So I was informed earlier. I had no idea, tbh, which really shows how
much I take notice of what goes on here :)
glad you guys are keeping up your info on me. continue talking!
makes my dick hard.
There aren't any musicians on bbs's
I beg your pardon!
https://soundcloud.com/byteshift :)
o
(O)
BeLLy
i thought i made you quit bbsing and you were going back under your rock?
Take it to the Religion sub! :-P
No way, those guys are mean over there. They almost made me quit BBSing.
but blues isn't in my wheelhouse.
Me neither.
I think adding more messages/value to a (new or pre-existing) musicians conference on an existing network might be better than a whole network for that one partiular subset of BBSers. Fewer networks with more (good, diverse) content is better for BBSing, I think.
Kind of depends on how you said it, but on the whole I agree it isn't
By: MRO to echicken on Mon Sep 23 2024 05:00:30
I know how much of a jerk I was. I reflect on it sometimes and it informs the way I approach a lot of things now. I'm sure I still slip on occasion, but people change. There's no irony in that, just time and experience.
A lecture on my *past* behavior from a guy who just told me to kill myself and invoked homosexuality as an implied insult? I don't know if that's irony, but it's something.
I beg your pardon!
https://soundcloud.com/byteshift :)
Facebook with thousands of followers. That's where the musicians are.
I thought they were all on that MyFace internet web-site.
I got the ridiculous idea a couple years ago to start a new net called Bluesnet. The idea was to cover nusician type conversations and related subjects. Not which album you once had, but playing in public, advertising, equipment, and the like. I still have it and there are a few on there but not what I thought there would be. There aren't any musicians on bbs's (except maybe Rob). I admin a couple music related groups on Facebook with thousands of followers. That's where the musicians are. <shrug> :-)
On 24 Sep 2024, Belly exclaimed the following...
I beg your pardon!
https://soundcloud.com/byteshift :)
sorry :-)
BTW... very interesting stuff
BTW... very interesting stuff
Agreed! That's real musicianship there.
Now Tim Smith aka mr proper aka KK4QN is certainly someone i wish i ran
out of bbsing. and this is a guy who literally said he respected me until i > pointed out he was a drug addict ripping off other sysops for money and
hardware he would sell.
I wish I was more of a musician than I am currently. I was a decent
guitar player many years ago in high school. After high school life & family got in the way & I quit playing. Since the start of lockdowns
I've been trying to pick guitar back up again & add other instruments,
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