• Trump or Harris?

    From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to SYS64738 on Sunday, August 25, 2024 08:09:28
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: SYS64738 to All on Thu Aug 01 2024 05:04 pm

    If the vote were held today, who would you cast your vote for?

    Hyperbole appears to be above Trump, he pretty much telegraphs his next moves. Based on what he's said, I don't want a president to proclaim himself dictator given the chance, cut funding for schools teaching CRT and other topics that religious groups can lobby against, Carry out mass deportations, claim to end the weaponization of the government while calling for journalists and his political enemies to be jailed, eliminate mail-in voting and deporting people based on political views.

    I'm voting for Harris.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, August 25, 2024 12:59:00
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to SYS64738 on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:09 am

    Hyperbole appears to be above Trump, he pretty much telegraphs his next moves. Based on what he's said, I don't want a president to proclaim himself dictator.

    Because he jokingly said to a reporter he would be dictator for one day?

    given the chance, cut funding for schools teaching CRT

    No, he would just get rid of CRT only, much the same way DeSantis did in florida.

    and other topics that religious groups can lobby against, Carry out mass deportations,

    As he or any president should do, We have a legal way to enter this country as do most Nations on earth, that is the ones that let aliens in.
    They broke imigration laws and just waltzed across our border, Joe and Kamala encouraged this and failed in their duties of defending our Nation.

    calling for journalists and his political enemies to be jailed, eliminate mail-in voting and deporting people based on political views.

    That is all leftist propaganda, Did he do any of these things when he was president?


    claim to end the weaponization of the government while
    calling for journalists and his political enemies to be jailed, eliminate

    ... Hmmm, fence must still be down over at the funny farm....

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, August 25, 2024 15:38:15
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to SYS64738 on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:09 am

    Hyperbole appears to be above Trump, he pretty much telegraphs his next moves. ased on what he's said, I don't want a president to proclaim himself dictator g ven the chance, cut funding for schools teaching CRT and other topics that reli ious groups can lobby against, Carry out mass deportations, claim to end the we ponization of the government while calling for journalists and his political en mies to be jailed, eliminate mail-in voting and deporting people based on polit cal views.

    The problem in my book is that even if you believe Trump would do all of that and you happened to dislike the idea, Harris' plan for mending household economy is imposing price caps on domestic products.

    Price capping is one of those things that sound great, lots of people have tried it, and it has ended up generating a lot of scarcity issues among the capped products. Even right-wings groups have been burnt with price capping.

    Price capping is a thing that kept Spain in the dirt up to the late 50s. IMO a candidate that says she wants to cap the price of food is about as good as a candidate that says she wants to detonate all the nuclear weapons she has in their silos.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Monday, August 26, 2024 11:21:00
    If the vote were held today, who would you cast your vote for?

    Hyperbole appears to be above Trump, he pretty much telegraphs his next moves.
    Based on what he's said, I don't want a president to proclaim himself dictator
    given the chance,

    I don't want them to, either. While he has come out and made some threats
    like that in past, the continued support of things like spying on us (via
    the Patriot Act) doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about Democrats
    or Republicans not doing this.

    cut funding for schools teaching CRT and other topics that
    religious groups can lobby against,

    I have not heard them say this, but I have heard them claim they will gut
    or close the Department of Education. My problem here is, in comparing my generation to past generations, I don't see where mine benefited from the existence of the DoE (est 1980, when I was 4 or 5 grades through public
    school) or the Office of Education (est 1953) that came before it.

    If anything, we seem to be getting dumber.

    Carry out mass deportations,

    If you are here illegally, you really should not be.

    claim to end
    the weaponization of the government while calling for journalists and his political enemies to be jailed,

    I've not seen this beyond people he believes have comitted crimes, but he doesn't get to make that call. Obama used to go to twitter and make
    similar complaints (that person should go to jail) when the courts didn't
    see things his way.

    eliminate mail-in voting

    Unless you are truely absentee, what is a necessity for this that doesn't involve "I like" or "It's convienent"?

    and deporting people based on political views.

    I have not heard them threaten this. I *HAVE* heard several people attempt
    to use their public influence to sway voters by "threatening" they will
    leave the country if he wins, though. If this is anything like 2000, 2016,
    or any other time these same folks have threatened to leave, the threats
    will be hollow from 99% of them.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, August 26, 2024 17:26:59
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to SYS64738 on Sun Aug 25 2024 08:09 am

    Hyperbole appears to be above Trump, he pretty much telegraphs his next moves. Based on what he's said, I don't want a president to proclaim himself dictator given the chance, cut funding for schools teaching CRT and other topics that religious groups can lobby against, Carry out mass deportations, claim to end the weaponization of the government while calling for journalists and his political enemies to be jailed, eliminate mail-in voting and deporting people based on political views.

    i wish all that was true.


    I'm voting for Harris.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Denn on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 09:16:27
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: Denn to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Aug 25 2024 12:59 pm

    Because he jokingly said to a reporter he would be dictator for one day?

    EXACTLY!!! the same way dumbass Democrats keep taking the "bloodbath" comment iut of context to satisfy their narrative. It's been debunken a miion ways from Snday yet they STILL use it, over and over and over again.

    No, he would just get rid of CRT only, much the same way DeSantis did in florida.

    CORRECT AGAIN!

    That is all leftist propaganda, Did he do any of these things when he was president?

    Yes! I too want t see some proof of this as well. The economy was strong, our defences were strong, energy was strong, AMERICA was strong.

    Now we're the butt of every international joke.

    The United States is a BUSINESS. Why do you think we have a GDP?

    The Dems want electric cars... But in the state of CA, they have rolling blackouts. I remember 1-2 years they BRAODCASTED ON TV, they were having roling blacouts, DO NOT CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WTF?!?!!?

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 09:54:29
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon Aug 26 2024 11:21 am

    I don't want them to, either. While he has come out and made some threats like that in past, the continued support of things like spying on us (via the Patriot Act) doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about Democrats or Republicans not doing this.

    You bring up a GREAT item here. That "Patriot Act", is ANYTHING but "patriotic".

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to KnightMare on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 13:07:29
    EXACTLY!!! the same way dumbass Democrats keep taking the "bloodbath" comment iut of context to satisfy their narrative. It's been debunken a miion ways from Snday yet they STILL use it, over and over and over again.

    They're still trying to push the debunked Russia Russia hoax.

    CORRECT AGAIN!

    Yes! I too want t see some proof of this as well. The economy was strong, our defences were strong, energy was strong, AMERICA was strong.

    Now we're the butt of every international joke.

    It would only get worse with Kamala.

    The United States is a BUSINESS. Why do you think we have a GDP?

    Religious organizations are also run like businesses.

    The Dems want electric cars... But in the state of CA, they have rolling blackouts. I remember 1-2 years they BRAODCASTED ON TV, they were having roling blacouts, DO NOT CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WTF?!?!!?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KnightMare on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 13:14:23
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: KnightMare to Denn on Tue Aug 27 2024 09:16 am

    The Dems want electric cars... But in the state of CA, they have rolling blackouts. I remember 1-2 years they BRAODCASTED ON TV, they were having roling blacouts, DO NOT CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WTF?!?!!?

    That's a symptom of bad planning. It seems like a mess that they've been pushing electric cars so much before all the infrastructure has really been built up enough to support them..

    Nightfox

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Nightfox on Tuesday, August 27, 2024 22:53:30
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: Nightfox to KnightMare on Tue Aug 27 2024 01:14 pm

    That's a symptom of bad planning. It seems like a mess that they've been pushing electric cars so much before all the infrastructure has really been built up enough to support them..

    Totally agree.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Nightfox on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 11:37:56
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: Nightfox to KnightMare on Tue Aug 27 2024 01:14 pm

    The Dems want electric cars... But in the state of CA, they have rolling
    blackouts. I remember 1-2 years they BRAODCASTED ON TV, they were having
    roling blacouts, DO NOT CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WTF?!?!!?

    That's a symptom of bad planning. It seems like a mess that they've been pushing electric cars so much before all the infrastructure has really been built up enough to support them..

    It's not just electric cars that are driving this. Climate change causes air conditioners to run more often and for longer periods which uses a LOT of energy.

    Datacenters are another big consumer of power, even if they claim to
    be "Carbon neutral". Northern Virginia has nearly 500 datacenters, mostly in Loudon, Fairfax and Prince William counties. Over the next 15 years power demands are expected to grow by 85%. They're building new power plants (Natural Gas) as fast as possible there, but the rate seems unsustainble.

    Honestly they should be plunking down nuclear plants. It's "greener" than solar or wind, and FAR safer than fossil-fuel powered plants. Most nuclear waste is stored on site until it's radioactivity is at or below normal background levels (takes less than 10 years for the majority of it). Even the core material can be safely stored on site for decades if needed since it takes up so little space.

    The only real drawback to nuclear is that the plants are expensive and take a long time to build.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KNIGHTMARE on Wednesday, August 28, 2024 09:42:00
    I don't want them to, either. While he has come out and made some threats >DW> like that in past, the continued support of things like spying on us (via >DW> the Patriot Act) doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about Democrats >DW> or Republicans not doing this.

    You bring up a GREAT item here. That "Patriot Act", is ANYTHING but "patriotic".

    IMHO, at the time it was obvious that we were not doing enough to keep our country safe but I think a lot of the measures contained within were
    knee-jerk reactions that, in the long run, have done more to curtail our
    own freedoms than they have to keep us safe.

    If we leave our southern border as open as it is, I have little doubt we
    are going to unfortunately reach another one of those times before we know
    it. That is sad.


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Dumas Walker on Thursday, August 29, 2024 08:14:46
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: Dumas Walker to KNIGHTMARE on Wed Aug 28 2024 09:42 am

    If we leave our southern border as open as it is, I have little doubt we are going to unfortunately reach another one of those times before we know it. That is sad.

    What is really sad, is the soldiers at home, look around and wonder "this is what I fought for?"

    Truly sad, indeed.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to KnightMare on Thursday, August 29, 2024 07:02:00
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: KnightMare to Denn on Tue Aug 27 2024 09:16 am

    The Dems want electric cars... But in the state of CA, they have rolling blackouts. I remember 1-2 years they BRAODCASTED ON TV, they were having roling blacouts, DO NOT CHARGE YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WTF?!?!!?

    That's because the Dems are stupid... and anyone who votes for them is stupid.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Dumas Walker on Thursday, August 29, 2024 07:12:09
    Re: Trump or Harris?
    By: Dumas Walker to KNIGHTMARE on Wed Aug 28 2024 09:42 am

    If we leave our southern border as open as it is, I have little doubt we
    are going to unfortunately reach another one of those times before we know it. That is sad.

    You can bet if Kamala is elected, it will remain open...

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BF2K+ on Friday, August 30, 2024 10:13:00
    If we leave our southern border as open as it is, I have little doubt we are going to unfortunately reach another one of those times before we know it. That is sad.

    You can bet if Kamala is elected, it will remain open...

    I doubt we could find a bookie dumb enough to take that bet. ;)


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