On 2025-04-13, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:

On 2025-04-13 00:05, William Unruh wrote:

On 2025-04-13, William Unruh<unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

On 2025-04-12, Ar<Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:

Not being terribly happy that Gimp3 won't be rolled out until next
version of Mageia, after "upgrading" to Mageia 9 introduced bugs that
were in the the latest 2.x version, and no photo editing for nearly two >>>> years as a result.

However, I took the advice on here to try the flatpack version of Gimp 3. >>>>
Now there's a problem, I don't know if it's specific to Gimp3 or because >>>> it's a flatpack (I've never used that package install before). I cannot >>>> get GIMP to call up the editor to handle RAW image files.


When you run Gimp3, go to EDIT > Preferences > Image Import & Export

Scroll down the list for Raw Image Importer (Plug In)

It only displays the line
(import-raw-plug-in
"${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-raw-placeholder/file-raw-placeholder") >>> Sounds like they have not yet implimeted the RAW importer. (not sure

what makes RAW so difficult). They have that stub there so that gimp
does not crash when you tell it to import a raw file. Ie, it is not
nonesense. It is trying to be helpful in not crashing.
So why not use the last 2.x that did handle raw imports, export it as an >>> xcf. Yes, it is an extra step, but it is not "useless". as you call it.

Actually I look at my versions of gimp (2.10.36 on both Mga8 and mga9)
they have the placeholder as well.

Looking at the available Mageia 9 plugins for Gimp, I see two that claim
to import RAW files; gimp-plugin-dcraw and gimp-plugin-ucraw. The second
one appears to be the newer, with a description that reads:

A GIMP plug-in which reads and processes raw images from most digital cameras. The conversion is done by the dcraw software and so all cameras supported by dcraw are also supported by this plug-in.

In contrary to the original GIMP plug-in of dcraw this one is much more comfortable, especially because of the life preview image but also due to more options.

As with several other Gimp plugins, this one was not installed on my
system when Gimp was installed.

This appears to be a third-party, cross-platform package. See https://ufraw.sourceforge.net/index.html for more information, including
if it has been updated to work with Gimp3, or how to use it as a
stand-alone application.

I do not think it is imported to Gimp3 (unless gimp3 and Gimp2 are
equivalent as far as the plugin in concerned. ) The last "news" is from
2016, 10 years ago when Gimp3 was unkown.


From the Mageia 9 ufraw description

"It reads raw images using Dave Coffin's raw conversion utility DCRaw.
And it supports basic color management using Little CMS, allowing
the user to apply color profiles.

Raw images are the data directly read from the CCD of the camera,
without in-camera processing, without lossy JPEG compression, and in
36 or 48 bits color depth (TIFF has 24 bits). Problem of the raw
images is that they are in proprietary, camera-specific formats as
they are exactly what the CCD has captured, and the CCDs on different
cameras are very different. It also contains info about the camera
settings.
"

Many smart phones now can emit raw images, but I suspect their format
was unkonw in 2016.

TJ

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On 13/04/2025 18:41, TJ wrote:

And more information: A search of Mageia's Bugzilla reveals that as of a little over two years ago, both of the above plugins were working with Mageia 8. No new bugs have been filed, so as far as I know, they still
work in Mageia 9.

They worked in Mageia 9 until Gimp was downgraded to version 2.10.36
which introduced a bug which I found as none of my photos created were
using EXIF.

For Gimp3 it was supposed to be fixed, but not it does not appear to be enabled.

In addition, there are alternatives for loading RAW files. Darktable and RawTherapee, both available from the Mageia 9 repositories, are both supposed to be able to process RAW files. My cameras all output in jpeg format, so I can't verify the above from my own experience.

I'll shut up about this now.

To edit the image more than Darktable can do, you load the image in
GIMP, which automatically opened Darktable so you adjust levels etc,
closing the image loads it in to Gimp for further working on.

The current Mageia 9 version (2.10.36) does not pass NEEDED (for my
usage) ANY of the image EXIF data.

In theory I can use RawTherapee instead of Gimp, but it has a VERY HIGH learning curve, and working on the images a drastically slower which is terrible for work flow. It's not Gimp.

So I was relying on Gimp3 release and import RAW and EXIF fixed - waited nearly two years so far for it.

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