Not being terribly happy that Gimp3 won't be rolled out until next
version of Mageia, after "upgrading" to Mageia 9 introduced bugs that
were in the the latest 2.x version, and no photo editing for nearly two years as a result.
However, I took the advice on here to try the flatpack version of Gimp 3.
Now there's a problem, I don't know if it's specific to Gimp3 or because it's a flatpack (I've never used that package install before). I cannot
get GIMP to call up the editor to handle RAW image files.
When you run Gimp3, go to EDIT > Preferences > Image Import & Export
Scroll down the list for Raw Image Importer (Plug In)
It only displays the line
(import-raw-plug-in "${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-raw-placeholder/file-raw-placeholder")
There are no other options selectable, the line isn't even editable.
I looked in to the gimprc file for 2.x and I can see an entry for (import-raw-plug-in "${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-darktable/file-darktable")
I copied the 2.x line to 3.0 gimprc, then upon starting Gimp3, I can see
in the text editor that Gimp3 ignores my edit, and re-writes it with the "placeholder" nonsense.
I tried making the file read only, Gimp3 started, threw an error, then crashed.
Any ideas on this, Gimp is useless without a RAW editor.
Thanks.
On 2025-04-12, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:
Not being terribly happy that Gimp3 won't be rolled out until next
version of Mageia, after "upgrading" to Mageia 9 introduced bugs that
were in the the latest 2.x version, and no photo editing for nearly two
years as a result.
However, I took the advice on here to try the flatpack version of Gimp 3.
Now there's a problem, I don't know if it's specific to Gimp3 or because
it's a flatpack (I've never used that package install before). I cannot
get GIMP to call up the editor to handle RAW image files.
When you run Gimp3, go to EDIT > Preferences > Image Import & Export
Scroll down the list for Raw Image Importer (Plug In)
It only displays the line
(import-raw-plug-in
"${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-raw-placeholder/file-raw-placeholder")
Sounds like they have not yet implimeted the RAW importer. (not sure
what makes RAW so difficult). They have that stub there so that gimp
does not crash when you tell it to import a raw file. Ie, it is not nonesense. It is trying to be helpful in not crashing.
So why not use the last 2.x that did handle raw imports, export it as an
xcf. Yes, it is an extra step, but it is not "useless". as you call it.
There are no other options selectable, the line isn't even editable.
As you discovered if it were it would be useless anyway. They have not
yet ported the RAW importer to gimp 3. and No matter what you do, it is
not magically going to appear.
Now you might know why Mageia did not put gimp3 into Mga10 yet.
I looked in to the gimprc file for 2.x and I can see an entry for
(import-raw-plug-in
"${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-darktable/file-darktable")
And I assume that if you look into that plug-ins directory you will not
find anything there in gimp3.
I copied the 2.x line to 3.0 gimprc, then upon starting Gimp3, I can see
in the text editor that Gimp3 ignores my edit, and re-writes it with the
"placeholder" nonsense.
I tried making the file read only, Gimp3 started, threw an error, then
crashed.
Any ideas on this, Gimp is useless without a RAW editor.
Well, no. Not everyone is editing raw photo files. So it may be useless
to you. If it is, don't use it.
Thanks.
On 2025-04-13, William Unruh<unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Ar<Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:Actually I look at my versions of gimp (2.10.36 on both Mga8 and mga9)
Not being terribly happy that Gimp3 won't be rolled out until nextwhat makes RAW so difficult). They have that stub there so that gimp
version of Mageia, after "upgrading" to Mageia 9 introduced bugs that
were in the the latest 2.x version, and no photo editing for nearly two
years as a result.
However, I took the advice on here to try the flatpack version of Gimp 3. >>>
Now there's a problem, I don't know if it's specific to Gimp3 or because >>> it's a flatpack (I've never used that package install before). I cannot
get GIMP to call up the editor to handle RAW image files.
When you run Gimp3, go to EDIT > Preferences > Image Import & Export
Scroll down the list for Raw Image Importer (Plug In)
It only displays the line
(import-raw-plug-in
"${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-raw-placeholder/file-raw-placeholder") >> Sounds like they have not yet implimeted the RAW importer. (not sure
does not crash when you tell it to import a raw file. Ie, it is not
nonesense. It is trying to be helpful in not crashing.
So why not use the last 2.x that did handle raw imports, export it as an
xcf. Yes, it is an extra step, but it is not "useless". as you call it.
they have the placeholder as well.
A GIMP plug-in which reads and processes raw images from most digital cameras. The conversion is done by the dcraw software and so all cameras supported by dcraw are also supported by this plug-in.
In contrary to the original GIMP plug-in of dcraw this one is much more comfortable, especially because of the life preview image but also due to more options.
This appears to be a third-party, cross-platform package. See https://ufraw.sourceforge.net/index.html for more information, including
if it has been updated to work with Gimp3, or how to use it as a stand- alone application.
On 2025-04-13 00:05, William Unruh wrote:
On 2025-04-13, William Unruh<unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Ar<Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:Actually I look at my versions of gimp (2.10.36 on both Mga8 and mga9)
Not being terribly happy that Gimp3 won't be rolled out until nextSounds like they have not yet implimeted the RAW importer. (not sure
version of Mageia, after "upgrading" to Mageia 9 introduced bugs that
were in the the latest 2.x version, and no photo editing for nearly two >>>> years as a result.
However, I took the advice on here to try the flatpack version of
Gimp 3.
Now there's a problem, I don't know if it's specific to Gimp3 or
because
it's a flatpack (I've never used that package install before). I cannot >>>> get GIMP to call up the editor to handle RAW image files.
When you run Gimp3, go to EDIT > Preferences > Image Import & Export
Scroll down the list for Raw Image Importer (Plug In)
It only displays the line
(import-raw-plug-in
"${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-raw-placeholder/file-raw-
placeholder")
what makes RAW so difficult). They have that stub there so that gimp
does not crash when you tell it to import a raw file. Ie, it is not
nonesense. It is trying to be helpful in not crashing.
So why not use the last 2.x that did handle raw imports, export it as an >>> xcf. Yes, it is an extra step, but it is not "useless". as you call it.
they have the placeholder as well.
Looking at the available Mageia 9 plugins for Gimp, I see two that claim
to import RAW files; gimp-plugin-dcraw and gimp-plugin-ucraw. The second
one appears to be the newer, with a description that reads:
A GIMP plug-in which reads and processes raw images from most digital
cameras. The conversion is done by the dcraw software and so all
cameras supported by dcraw are also supported by this plug-in.
In contrary to the original GIMP plug-in of dcraw this one is much
more comfortable, especially because of the life preview image but
also due to more options.
As with several other Gimp plugins, this one was not installed on my
system when Gimp was installed.
This appears to be a third-party, cross-platform package. See https://ufraw.sourceforge.net/index.html for more information, including
if it has been updated to work with Gimp3, or how to use it as a stand- alone application.
TJ
In addition, there are alternatives for loading RAW files. Darktable
and RawTherapee, both available from the Mageia 9 repositories, are
both supposed to be able to process RAW files. My cameras all output
in jpeg format, so I can't verify the above from my own experience.
On 2025-04-13 00:05, William Unruh wrote:
On 2025-04-13, William Unruh<unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2025-04-12, Ar<Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:Actually I look at my versions of gimp (2.10.36 on both Mga8 and mga9)
Not being terribly happy that Gimp3 won't be rolled out until nextwhat makes RAW so difficult). They have that stub there so that gimp
version of Mageia, after "upgrading" to Mageia 9 introduced bugs that
were in the the latest 2.x version, and no photo editing for nearly two >>>> years as a result.
However, I took the advice on here to try the flatpack version of Gimp 3. >>>>
Now there's a problem, I don't know if it's specific to Gimp3 or because >>>> it's a flatpack (I've never used that package install before). I cannot >>>> get GIMP to call up the editor to handle RAW image files.
When you run Gimp3, go to EDIT > Preferences > Image Import & Export
Scroll down the list for Raw Image Importer (Plug In)
It only displays the line
(import-raw-plug-in
"${gimp_plug_in_dir}/plug-ins/file-raw-placeholder/file-raw-placeholder") >>> Sounds like they have not yet implimeted the RAW importer. (not sure
does not crash when you tell it to import a raw file. Ie, it is not
nonesense. It is trying to be helpful in not crashing.
So why not use the last 2.x that did handle raw imports, export it as an >>> xcf. Yes, it is an extra step, but it is not "useless". as you call it.
they have the placeholder as well.
Looking at the available Mageia 9 plugins for Gimp, I see two that claim
to import RAW files; gimp-plugin-dcraw and gimp-plugin-ucraw. The second
one appears to be the newer, with a description that reads:
A GIMP plug-in which reads and processes raw images from most digital cameras. The conversion is done by the dcraw software and so all cameras supported by dcraw are also supported by this plug-in.
In contrary to the original GIMP plug-in of dcraw this one is much more comfortable, especially because of the life preview image but also due to more options.
As with several other Gimp plugins, this one was not installed on my
system when Gimp was installed.
This appears to be a third-party, cross-platform package. See https://ufraw.sourceforge.net/index.html for more information, including
if it has been updated to work with Gimp3, or how to use it as a
stand-alone application.
TJ
And more information: A search of Mageia's Bugzilla reveals that as of a little over two years ago, both of the above plugins were working with Mageia 8. No new bugs have been filed, so as far as I know, they still
work in Mageia 9.
In addition, there are alternatives for loading RAW files. Darktable and RawTherapee, both available from the Mageia 9 repositories, are both supposed to be able to process RAW files. My cameras all output in jpeg format, so I can't verify the above from my own experience.
I'll shut up about this now.
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