• fwupdmgr

    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, February 09, 2025 02:30:48


    I discover when I blundered into firmware security, this was not
    installed. I didn't find it in the package manager either.

    This is a diversion of course. I found it looking for other stuff.

    eg;
    My kernel messages claim a fail for mdmonitor which seems to be for raid software, which I don't run.
    So I went looking for that program which use to allow stopping, starting
    and starting at boot of all processes.
    I thought if there is a mdmonitor entry I'll just stop it.

    I couldn't find that program.. Is it deprecated?

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, February 09, 2025 02:55:37
    On 9/2/25 13:30, faeychild wrote:


    I discover when I blundered into firmware security, this was not
    installed. I didn't find it in the package manager either.

    This is a diversion of course. I found it looking for other stuff.

    eg;
    My kernel messages claim a fail for mdmonitor which seems to be for raid software, which I don't run.
    So I went looking for that program which use to allow stopping, starting
    and starting at boot of all processes.
    I thought if there is a mdmonitor entry I'll just stop it.

    I couldn't find that program.. Is it deprecated?



    OK there is a similar deal (not as flexible) under "System Monitor > Processes"
    It doesn't list mdmonitor.


    I'm not playing this game today

    This is another Sunday bypass.
    I was passing by the computer and decided to stupidly check up on the
    kernel ndmonitor message
    And this morphed into a search of MGA6 to find "KSysguard" and then back
    to MGA9 where it no longer exists and all this started.

    Why do I do this to myself?? I'm walking away, really watch me. :-)
    I've gone..........

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to faeychild on Sunday, February 09, 2025 11:57:56

    Hello faeychild!

    09 Feb 25 02:30, faeychild wrote to all:

    Look for systemadm.

    but can't remember what package it is in for installing as rpm -q systemadm does not find it.

    But found it via :
    whereis systemadm
    systemadm: /usr/bin/systemadm /usr/share/man/man1/systemadm.1.xz


    I discover when I blundered into firmware security, this was not
    installed. I didn't find it in the package manager either.

    This is a diversion of course. I found it looking for other stuff.

    eg;
    My kernel messages claim a fail for mdmonitor which seems to be for
    raid software, which I don't run. So I went looking for that program
    which use to allow stopping, starting and starting at boot of all
    processes. I thought if there is a mdmonitor entry I'll just stop it.

    I couldn't find that program.. Is it deprecated?

    --
    faeychild
    Running kde on 6.6.74-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64




    Vincent



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, February 09, 2025 05:50:33
    On Sat, 08 Feb 2025 21:55:37 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 9/2/25 13:30, faeychild wrote:


    I discover when I blundered into firmware security, this was not
    installed. I didn't find it in the package manager either.

    This is a diversion of course. I found it looking for other stuff.

    eg;
    My kernel messages claim a fail for mdmonitor which seems to be for raid
    software, which I don't run.
    So I went looking for that program which use to allow stopping, starting
    and starting at boot of all processes.
    I thought if there is a mdmonitor entry I'll just stop it.

    I couldn't find that program.. Is it deprecated?



    OK there is a similar deal (not as flexible) under "System Monitor > Processes"
    It doesn't list mdmonitor.


    I'm not playing this game today

    This is another Sunday bypass.
    I was passing by the computer and decided to stupidly check up on the
    kernel ndmonitor message
    And this morphed into a search of MGA6 to find "KSysguard" and then back
    to MGA9 where it no longer exists and all this started.

    Why do I do this to myself?? I'm walking away, really watch me. :-)
    I've gone..........

    # urpmf fwupdmgr|grep bin/|sort -u
    fwupd:/usr/bin/fwupdmgr

    # urpmf mdmonitor|grep service|sort -u mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor.service mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor-takeover.service

    So "urpmi fwupd", and "systemctl disable mdmonitor.service".

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, February 09, 2025 21:42:19
    On 9/2/25 16:50, David W. Hodgins wrote:

    # urpmf fwupdmgr|grep bin/|sort -u
    fwupd:/usr/bin/fwupdmgr

    # urpmf mdmonitor|grep service|sort -u mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor.service mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor-takeover.service

    So "urpmi fwupd", and "systemctl disable mdmonitor.service".

    Regards, Dave Hodgins



    excellent! That is what I was hoping to achieve with "KsysGuard"
    curiously when I ran your command

    ~]$ urpmf mdmonitor|grep service|sort -u

    http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/9/x86_64/media/core/release/media_info/20230819-212352-files.xml.lzma

    http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/9/x86_64/media/core/updates/media_info/20250209-000133-files.xml.lzma
    <snip>

    http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/distrib/9/i586/media/tainted/updates/media_info/20250205-192226-files.xml.lzma
    mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor.service

    mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor-takeover.service

    I got this long list, so, I thought "spaces" around the pipe

    so I ran this

    urpmf mdmonitor | grep service|sort -u mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor.service mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor-takeover.service

    and got your result
    Then I ran the original command

    urpmf mdmonitor|grep service|sort -u mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor.service mdadm:/usr/lib/systemd/system/mdmonitor-takeover.service

    and still got your result

    The same command gives different results.
    I assume that the .xml files had to download the first time. spaces had nothing to do with it. I am momentarily delusional
    the command line can be very instructive

    Thanks David
    Regards
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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Monday, February 10, 2025 02:51:18
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 16:42:19 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    <snip>
    I assume that the .xml files had to download the first time. spaces had nothing to do with it. I am momentarily delusional

    Correct. In drakrpm-edit-media, under Options, then Global options I always set xml meta
    data download to always.

    The effect of setting the global options in the gui add the entries to the urpmi.cfg file ...
    $ head -n 5 /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
    {
    downloader: wget
    verify-rpm: 1
    xml-info: always
    }

    I just edit the file instead of using the gui. Next time there are changes for urpmi to download, it
    will download the xml files. Makes getting the list of available updates a little slower, but means no
    waiting for downloads when looking things up with urpmf or urpmq. On a system with more than
    one user, it also means the xml data is only downloaded by root, instead of once for each user that
    uses urpmf or urpmq.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Monday, February 10, 2025 02:52:15
    On 9/2/25 16:50, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    So "urpmi fwupd", and "systemctl disable mdmonitor.service".

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    Rebooted and it hasn't recurred
    Thanks David
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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Monday, February 10, 2025 15:13:35
    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 21:51:18 -0500, David W. Hodgins wrote:

    On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 16:42:19 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    <snip>
    I assume that the .xml files had to download the first time. spaces had
    nothing to do with it. I am momentarily delusional

    Correct. In drakrpm-edit-media, under Options, then Global options I always set xml meta
    data download to always.

    The effect of setting the global options in the gui add the entries to the urpmi.cfg file ...
    $ head -n 5 /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
    {
    downloader: wget
    verify-rpm: 1
    xml-info: always
    }

    I just edit the file instead of using the gui. Next time there are changes for urpmi to download, it
    will download the xml files. Makes getting the list of available updates a little slower, but means no
    waiting for downloads when looking things up with urpmf or urpmq. On a system with more than
    one user, it also means the xml data is only downloaded by root, instead of once for each user that
    uses urpmf or urpmq.
    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    I do not have raid in use on any of my machines. Should mdmonitor be running ?

    Do I need to set xml meta data download to always in drakrpm-edit-media,
    under Options, then Global options ?

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 11, 2025 17:34:47
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:13:35 -0500, Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> wrote:
    <snip>
    I do not have raid in use on any of my machines. Should mdmonitor be running ?

    For people who need it, if it's not enabled their system will not boot. For those who don't, it
    just causes the journal message, and a slight delay booting.

    It isn't disabled automatically for people who are not currently using it, as they may attach
    other drives that are set up to use it.

    Do I need to set xml meta data download to always in drakrpm-edit-media, under Options, then Global options ?

    Open a terminal, enter "su -" to become root. Enter the command drakrpm-edit-media.

    In drakrpm-edit-media, use the mouse to select Options. That opens a popup menu with various
    entries, one of which is Global options. When Global options is selected, there are three entries that
    can set.

    1 Verify RPMS... - Can be set to never or always.

    I prefer to have the rpm packages verified at download. Setting it to never makes things faster.
    The rpm packages are still verified when they are installed, so setting it to never does not impact
    security, it just delays finding a download problem.

    2 Download program ...

    I prefer using wget. Depending on the mirror you use, other options (curl or aria2) may be
    preferred.

    3 XML ... download ...

    Of the options available, I prefer to select "Always" so that if I later run a urpmq or urpmf
    command I don't have to wait for the download.

    People who never or rarely use the urpmq or urpmf commands will likely prefer to download
    the xml data only when needed. I use them enough I prefer to let checking for updates take
    a little longer so I'm not left waiting when I am sitting there running a command waiting for
    the output.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 11, 2025 17:38:37
    On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 12:34:47 -0500, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:13:35 -0500, Jim <jim.beard@verizon.net> wrote:
    <snip>
    I do not have raid in use on any of my machines. Should mdmonitor be running ?

    For people who need it, if it's not enabled their system will not boot. For those who don't, it
    just causes the journal message, and a slight delay booting.

    It isn't disabled automatically for people who are not currently using it, as they may attach
    other drives that are set up to use it.

    Forgot to add ...

    If you are not currently using raid, and have no plans to use it later, disable it.

    Don't worry about the mdmonitor-takeover service. It does nothing (just starts/stops) if
    the mdmonitor.service has been disabled.

    Regards Dave Hodgins

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