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    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Monday, January 27, 2025 01:26:13

    Until very recently I used clipgrab to download Youtube video. It
    started to get picky and now refuses completely

    "No video found"

    Google suggests that this was a problem with MGA8, well, more with
    Youtube shifting the goalposts.
    David suggested some pretty hands on solutions and I found another one involving Github.
    I've avoided Github so far, a bit above my pay grade

    Has anyone else blundered into this and fixed it


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Monday, January 27, 2025 04:52:33
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 20:26:13 -0500, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    Until very recently I used clipgrab to download Youtube video. It
    started to get picky and now refuses completely

    "No video found"

    Google suggests that this was a problem with MGA8, well, more with
    Youtube shifting the goalposts.
    David suggested some pretty hands on solutions and I found another one involving Github.
    I've avoided Github so far, a bit above my pay grade

    Has anyone else blundered into this and fixed it

    If m8 doesn't have a version of yt-dlp that works, you'll probably have to upgrade to m9.

    $ rpm -q --requires yt-dlp
    python(abi) = 3.10
    python3.10dist(brotli)
    python3.10dist(certifi)
    python3.10dist(mutagen)
    python3.10dist(pycryptodomex)
    python3.10dist(requests) >= 2.31
    python3.10dist(urllib3) >= 1.26.17
    python3.10dist(websockets) >= 12
    rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
    rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1
    rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1
    rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
    rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <= 5.4.18-1

    The m9 version of yt-dlp might work on m8, but would probably need the python packages
    too.

    yt-dlp is a command line program. Type in ""yt-dlp ", then copy/paste the url for the youtube
    video do download it.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Markus Robert Kessler@2:250/1 to All on Monday, January 27, 2025 07:34:10
    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 23:52:33 -0500 David W. Hodgins wrote:

    On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 20:26:13 -0500, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    Until very recently I used clipgrab to download Youtube video. It
    started to get picky and now refuses completely

    "No video found"

    Google suggests that this was a problem with MGA8, well, more with
    Youtube shifting the goalposts.
    David suggested some pretty hands on solutions and I found another one
    involving Github.
    I've avoided Github so far, a bit above my pay grade

    Has anyone else blundered into this and fixed it

    If m8 doesn't have a version of yt-dlp that works, you'll probably have
    to upgrade to m9.

    $ rpm -q --requires yt-dlp python(abi) = 3.10 python3.10dist(brotli) python3.10dist(certifi)
    python3.10dist(mutagen)
    python3.10dist(pycryptodomex)
    python3.10dist(requests) >= 2.31 python3.10dist(urllib3) >= 1.26.17 python3.10dist(websockets) >= 12 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 rpmlib(FileDigests) <= 4.6.0-1 rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1 rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 rpmlib(PayloadIsZstd) <=
    5.4.18-1

    The m9 version of yt-dlp might work on m8, but would probably need the
    python packages too.

    yt-dlp is a command line program. Type in ""yt-dlp ", then copy/paste
    the url for the youtube video do download it.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Hello everyone,

    I was also heavily using "yt-dlp" out of official repository.
    But as google / yt started to change the behaviour more and more
    frequently, it turned out that the rpm, once updated, will always be
    outdated soon. Current version is from August 2024, and around 2-3 weeks
    ago they again changed the way yt works (you get told from yt to sign on
    to verify your age, or so).

    So, some people created a project, solely dedicated to write an
    alternative and keep it uptodate:

    https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases

    I can really recommend this, and it is not depending on the OS version.

    Best regards,

    Markus

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Monday, January 27, 2025 18:12:06
    On 2025-01-26 20:26, faeychild wrote:

     Until very recently I used clipgrab to download Youtube video. It
    started to get picky and now refuses completely

    "No video found"

    Google suggests that this was a problem with MGA8, well, more with
    Youtube shifting the goalposts.
    David suggested some pretty hands on solutions and I found another one involving Github.
    I've avoided Github so far, a bit above my pay grade

    Has anyone else blundered into this and fixed it


    It stopped working for me with MGA9, at around the same time, in the
    same way. I filed a Mageia bug report on it, so it's in the hands of the developers now.

    See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33939

    I had an alternative method, a Firefox extension called "Video DownloadHelper." It's more ponderous than Clipgrab, but it did work. I
    say "did" because it quit working on Youtube about two days after
    Clipgrab did.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Monday, January 27, 2025 20:23:00
    On 28/1/25 05:12, TJ wrote:

    It stopped working for me with MGA9, at around the same time, in the
    same way. I filed a Mageia bug report on it, so it's in the hands of the developers now.

    See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33939

    I had an alternative method, a Firefox extension called "Video DownloadHelper." It's more ponderous than Clipgrab, but it did work. I
    say "did" because it quit working on Youtube about two days after
    Clipgrab did.

    TJ

    Absolutely correct!,TJ my timeline exactly.

    Should I assume that Youtube does not agree with the downloading of
    their content or they enjoy messing with your mind - like Microsoft


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, January 28, 2025 03:20:42
    On 2025-01-27 15:23, faeychild wrote:
    On 28/1/25 05:12, TJ wrote:

    It stopped working for me with MGA9, at around the same time, in the
    same way. I filed a Mageia bug report on it, so it's in the hands of
    the developers now.

    See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33939

    I had an alternative method, a Firefox extension called "Video
    DownloadHelper." It's more ponderous than Clipgrab, but it did work. I
    say "did" because it quit working on Youtube about two days after
    Clipgrab did.

    TJ

    Absolutely correct!,TJ my timeline exactly.

    Should I assume that Youtube does not agree with the downloading of
    their content or they enjoy  messing with your mind - like Microsoft


    Possibly both.

    TJ


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Saturday, February 01, 2025 21:06:54
    On 2025-01-27 13:12, TJ wrote:

    I had an alternative method, a Firefox extension called "Video DownloadHelper." It's more ponderous than Clipgrab, but it did work. I
    say "did" because it quit working on Youtube about two days after
    Clipgrab did.

    FWIW, the above Video DownloadHelper issued an update a day or two
    ago,and is now working with Youtube again.

    TJ

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, February 02, 2025 14:52:15
    On 2025-01-26 20:26, faeychild wrote:

     Until very recently I used clipgrab to download Youtube video. It
    started to get picky and now refuses completely

    "No video found"

    Google suggests that this was a problem with MGA8, well, more with
    Youtube shifting the goalposts.
    David suggested some pretty hands on solutions and I found another one involving Github.
    I've avoided Github so far, a bit above my pay grade

    Has anyone else blundered into this and fixed it


    A Mageia 9 update to yt-dlp has been tested and approved, and it appears
    to fix the Clipgrab issue. There's some administrative tasks that still
    need to be done, but it should be released in a day or two.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sunday, February 02, 2025 20:36:43
    On 3/2/25 01:52, TJ wrote:


    A Mageia 9 update to yt-dlp has been tested and approved, and it appears
    to fix the Clipgrab issue. There's some administrative tasks that still
    need to be done, but it should be released in a day or two.

    TJ

    Thanks TJ
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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 04, 2025 02:19:24
    On 3/2/25 01:52, TJ wrote:

    A Mageia 9 update to yt-dlp has been tested and approved, and it appears
    to fix the Clipgrab issue. There's some administrative tasks that still
    need to be done, but it should be released in a day or two.

    TJ

    It showed up this morning in the update and we're back on the road

    How many months do you give the reprieve?

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 04, 2025 16:48:03
    On 2025-02-03 21:19, faeychild wrote:
    On 3/2/25 01:52, TJ wrote:

    A Mageia 9 update to yt-dlp has been tested and approved, and it
    appears to fix the Clipgrab issue. There's some administrative tasks
    that still need to be done, but it should be released in a day or two.

    TJ

    It showed up this morning in the update and we're back on the road

    How many months do you give the reprieve?

    That's entirely up to Alphabet. (Parent company of Google, Youtube, etc.)

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tuesday, February 04, 2025 20:30:00
    On 5/2/25 03:48, TJ wrote:

    That's entirely up to Alphabet. (Parent company of Google, Youtube, etc.)

    TJ

    Does it serve a purpose or are they just practicing code?

    We'll change , see how long it takes you to get around it
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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Wednesday, February 05, 2025 14:40:52
    On 2025-02-04 15:30, faeychild wrote:
    On 5/2/25 03:48, TJ wrote:

    That's entirely up to Alphabet. (Parent company of Google, Youtube, etc.)

    TJ

    Does it serve a purpose or are they just practicing code?

    We'll change , see how long it takes you to get around it

    They want you to have to watch on Youtube itself, so they can collect advertising revenue, or a subscription fee. If you can download a video,
    and watch it elsewhere, they collect nothing.

    TJ

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Friday, February 07, 2025 21:28:33
    On 6/2/25 01:40, TJ wrote:


    They want you to have to watch on Youtube itself, so they can collect advertising revenue, or a subscription fee. If you can download a video,
    and watch it elsewhere, they collect nothing.

    TJ

    Yes All true.
    The vast majority of YT is watched live. Just the occasional clip is downloaded.. But I see their point.
    I wonder how much revenue these downloads cost them.
    For academic curiosity how difficult is it to detect the difference
    between a normal stream and download grab.
    For a difficult TV channel stream I had to resort to a screen record.
    It ties up the computer, but it works

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